FD3S UIM adapter
04-12-16, 11:08 PM
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FD3S UIM adapter
Hey i know that for while that some people were looking for the UIM adapter for these cars. I happened to have one from my old car that i was thinking of having a shop duplicate. Does anyone still make these things.
Any information you guys have would help.
Any information you guys have would help.
04-13-16, 12:00 AM
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ah..Nah..
you should toss that out in the trash..
By the way when is Garbage day around your house?..(mwuhahhahahhaaa!!!!!!)
Seriously these things should be made in bulk because lately the threads about them are like flies on poop!
Make it..they will hummmm!
you should toss that out in the trash..
By the way when is Garbage day around your house?..(mwuhahhahahhaaa!!!!!!)
Seriously these things should be made in bulk because lately the threads about them are like flies on poop!
Make it..they will hummmm!
04-14-16, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzb87
There's another guy on this forum who claims to be making one, but gets bent out of shape when people remind him that several brands sold this product for half of what he's proposing to charge, so I doubt he'll make it off the ground with that attitude. There's certainly a small market for this.
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04-14-16, 03:41 PM
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I can definitely have them duplicated with but I would STRONGLY advise to not use an orange setup. The chances of an oring falling down into the intake runners is just too high. I'm thinking about starting up an interest thread. I'm willing to pay for a batch on my own I just want to make sure people want them. I don't think they will be as cheap in a smaller batch.
04-14-16, 03:47 PM
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here it is,
there are 3 runs
the top run which is pink is a year old, it was my old engine with low comp rotors and a GT35/40, 0.96 turbine housing small street port,
The middle run which is red is my new engine with FD rotorsand the FC UIM with a large street port (huge) same turbo but with a 1.15 exhaust housing both T4 flange.
The black run is with the FD UIM on the new engine.
The old run may have been a slightly higher boost but the two new engine runs are a touch under 1 bar, about 13.5 - 14 psi.
I now need to try and figure out why both engines hit 350 bhp and stop, although the new engine makes it a lot earlier. The graphs are very similar considering the porting is much different and the turbine housing is different and the rotors are different. (its actually a completely different block)
I have plenty fueling, only hitting 74% duty cycle.
The only thing that is the same is the intercooler whic the tuner thinks maybe restrictive.
What do you think?
BHP and torque, both rear wheel figures.
there are 3 runs
the top run which is pink is a year old, it was my old engine with low comp rotors and a GT35/40, 0.96 turbine housing small street port,
The middle run which is red is my new engine with FD rotorsand the FC UIM with a large street port (huge) same turbo but with a 1.15 exhaust housing both T4 flange.
The black run is with the FD UIM on the new engine.
The old run may have been a slightly higher boost but the two new engine runs are a touch under 1 bar, about 13.5 - 14 psi.
I now need to try and figure out why both engines hit 350 bhp and stop, although the new engine makes it a lot earlier. The graphs are very similar considering the porting is much different and the turbine housing is different and the rotors are different. (its actually a completely different block)
I have plenty fueling, only hitting 74% duty cycle.
The only thing that is the same is the intercooler whic the tuner thinks maybe restrictive.
What do you think?
BHP and torque, both rear wheel figures.
04-14-16, 10:52 PM
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I can definitely have them duplicated with but I would STRONGLY advise to not use an orange setup. The chances of an oring falling down into the intake runners is just too high. I'm thinking about starting up an interest thread. I'm willing to pay for a batch on my own I just want to make sure people want them. I don't think they will be as cheap in a smaller batch.
04-14-16, 10:53 PM
#14
So before i order a batch I want to see who all is actually interested in maybe getting one? I cant discuss pricing or anything like that but if you thin you want and could afford one based off previous market values then let me know.
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04-14-16, 11:00 PM
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I actually like the o ring idea . It cancels out the differences in bolt patterns and gasket sealing differences. I'm sure some people are running factory gaskets thinner than they should. It would suck if an o ring went into the engine. I guess you would have to be extra careful on instalation
The second thing that concerns me is that high quality o-rings are not "readily" available to most people depending on location however i have not done enough research to know if orings at places like oreillys and auto zone would be up to the task.
04-14-16, 11:03 PM
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The old RisingRPM setup used eccentric bolts which basically moved to allow you to slap the pieces together since the bolt patterns were slightly different.
This setup allowed you to use the FD on top and the FC Gasket on the bottom.
Since the holes on the bottom of the spacer were slightly larger to accommodate the eccentric bolt it allowed the correct bolt spacing of the lower manifold and then it transitioned to the FD up top.
There is another 2 tier adapter that allows the parts to be slapped together as the flanges at the top and bottom are made to fit each different manifold.
I honestly liked the RisingRPM spacer..(before it went extinct).I should have kept mine.
I wouldn't like the O-Ring idea..it just making a simple part more complicated to manufacture.
This setup allowed you to use the FD on top and the FC Gasket on the bottom.
Since the holes on the bottom of the spacer were slightly larger to accommodate the eccentric bolt it allowed the correct bolt spacing of the lower manifold and then it transitioned to the FD up top.
There is another 2 tier adapter that allows the parts to be slapped together as the flanges at the top and bottom are made to fit each different manifold.
I honestly liked the RisingRPM spacer..(before it went extinct).I should have kept mine.
I wouldn't like the O-Ring idea..it just making a simple part more complicated to manufacture.
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04-14-16, 11:11 PM
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I believe the difference between the is somewhere around .030 in. To lower cost i would just provide each adapter with bolts for the s4 and s5 LIM. It would cost a little more but make things super easy for me and the machine guy.
This design is very similar to the rising rpm one utilizing the offset bolts.
This design is very similar to the rising rpm one utilizing the offset bolts.
Last edited by AaronJ; 04-14-16 at 11:14 PM.
04-15-16, 01:05 AM
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Those dyno charts demonstrate exactly what Mazda set out to achieve with the FD intake manifold - increased mid-range rpm torque through the dynamic effect pressure waves. This is documented in a SAE paper I read years ago.
RaceCast here in Melbourne, Australia has designed and made a 13B-REW LIM to s4/5 block adapter. As part of the adapter, it shapes the steep FD LIM runners to run more horizontally into the block, thereby solving the limitations of the standard FD setup.
Check it out: Series 6 13B intake adapter plate
This in combination with an Xcessive LIM and you have the best of both worlds.
RaceCast here in Melbourne, Australia has designed and made a 13B-REW LIM to s4/5 block adapter. As part of the adapter, it shapes the steep FD LIM runners to run more horizontally into the block, thereby solving the limitations of the standard FD setup.
Check it out: Series 6 13B intake adapter plate
This in combination with an Xcessive LIM and you have the best of both worlds.
04-15-16, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KYPREO
Those dyno charts demonstrate exactly what Mazda set out to achieve with the FD intake manifold - increased mid-range rpm torque through the dynamic effect pressure waves. This is documented in a SAE paper I read years ago.
RaceCast here in Melbourne, Australia has designed and made a 13B-REW LIM to s4/5 block adapter. As part of the adapter, it shapes the steep FD LIM runners to run more horizontally into the block, thereby solving the limitations of the standard FD setup.
Check it out: Series 6 13B intake adapter plate
This in combination with an Xcessive LIM and you have the best of both worlds.
RaceCast here in Melbourne, Australia has designed and made a 13B-REW LIM to s4/5 block adapter. As part of the adapter, it shapes the steep FD LIM runners to run more horizontally into the block, thereby solving the limitations of the standard FD setup.
Check it out: Series 6 13B intake adapter plate
This in combination with an Xcessive LIM and you have the best of both worlds.
The only issue I see with that is how that affects clearance with most turbo manifolds, not always enough room to accommodate that step.
04-15-16, 06:56 AM
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AUD385 includes 10%GST which doesn't apply to exports. It would be under USD300 shipped i think.
The other UIM adapter is made by Reaction Racing in Japan. Very nice quality unit with perfect match porting but this will cost you even more.
I'm not convinced turbo clearance will be an issue as the extra thickness of the adapter is partly made up by the fact the FD LIM is steeper doesn't stick out from the engine as far. We'll see when i fit mine.
The other UIM adapter is made by Reaction Racing in Japan. Very nice quality unit with perfect match porting but this will cost you even more.
I'm not convinced turbo clearance will be an issue as the extra thickness of the adapter is partly made up by the fact the FD LIM is steeper doesn't stick out from the engine as far. We'll see when i fit mine.