FD custom engine harness for power FC on S4
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FD custom engine harness for power FC on S4
Well I started another project, and I want to run a PowerFC in my S4. The probleme is that the power FC uses 0-5V sensors and not the S4, only the S5. And since I am going to be using the FD intake and TB on my S4 engine and S5 LIM why not use the FD harness and make a custom one. All I have to do is use all of the FD sensors on the S4 block, aside from injectors and I am set.
So I just need confirmations to be sure:
Since I'm using the S4 low impedance injectors all I would have to do is keep the S4 resistor pack in the harness, right?
And what about the coils? I am planning on keeping the FC coils and running a Twinpower. Anything I should know before I swap the wires from the body harness to make it fit the FD plug? It should be plug&play after that, right?
That's it for now.
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So I just need confirmations to be sure:
Since I'm using the S4 low impedance injectors all I would have to do is keep the S4 resistor pack in the harness, right?
And what about the coils? I am planning on keeping the FC coils and running a Twinpower. Anything I should know before I swap the wires from the body harness to make it fit the FD plug? It should be plug&play after that, right?
That's it for now.
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I know about that adapter, but as I said, I am making a custom harness for my car. I wanna make it seamless in the engine bay as much as possible, so I dont need the adapter either way. And there is something missing in that kit. S4 sensor dont work with the PFC so in the end it would cost me more. And I have all the FD parts I need right here.
I just need to know if I am missing something or not.
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I just need to know if I am missing something or not.
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There is nothing missing in the kit. Everything that is needed to run the PFC in the S4 is right there. What S4 sensor is it that you think doesn't work? We supply the MAP and IAT, all there is left is the TPS, water temp and CAS and those all work fine. You can't use the FD CAS, they won't even come close to mounting to an S4.
And you are missing something , the FC coils will not fire properly unless you follow our modifcation instructions.
And you are missing something , the FC coils will not fire properly unless you follow our modifcation instructions.
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The more I think about , the more I realize just how bad of an idea putting the FD engine harness in an FC really is. You will loose the MAP sensor connection completely, the dash harness will not plug in at all, meaning you loose your gauges and COR, the wipers will have to be completely rewired etc etc
This will be as far from "seemless" as you can get, but anyway good luck with your project.
This will be as far from "seemless" as you can get, but anyway good luck with your project.
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buy the adapter harness man... trust me. or just buy a junk FD harness and cut the plugs off with some slack in the wires. then cut the plugs off the FC harness and match all the necessary wires up. I'm sure I could do it now because I know the pinouts very well, but you don't have the same experience I do. Also, having a patch harness is very convenient. You can tap all your gizmos into that and leave your factory harness alone. So if you need to remove the harness from the vehicle (engine removal) there isn't much extra crap to deal with.
You are creating a massive headache for yourself and you're really going to save much money.
You are creating a massive headache for yourself and you're really going to save much money.
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There is nothing missing in the kit. Everything that is needed to run the PFC in the S4 is right there. What S4 sensor is it that you think doesn't work? We supply the MAP and IAT, all there is left is the TPS, water temp and CAS and those all work fine. You can't use the FD CAS, they won't even come close to mounting to an S4.
And you are missing something , the FC coils will not fire properly unless you follow our modifcation instructions.
And you are missing something , the FC coils will not fire properly unless you follow our modifcation instructions.
The more I think about , the more I realize just how bad of an idea putting the FD engine harness in an FC really is. You will loose the MAP sensor connection completely, the dash harness will not plug in at all, meaning you loose your gauges and COR, the wipers will have to be completely rewired etc etc
This will be as far from "seemless" as you can get, but anyway good luck with your project.
This will be as far from "seemless" as you can get, but anyway good luck with your project.
But since you mentionned it, I dont see a problem with using an FD MAP sensor that I have right here. I also dont see why I cant use the S4 connector for the CAS and water temp BECAUSE I am making a custom harness. And as I said I will be using the FD UIM, so TPS and AIT will be FD. Rewiring the wipers!?! OH NO!!!!
I also dont remember asking anything about the above...But thank you for your informative input.
Thanks for the heads up for the coils though, the search function showed me what to do and its pretty easy.
And since you didn't bitch about the resistor pack thing I asked for, It would mean that I am correct. It was basically a stupid question but I just wanted confirmation.
And again, I am making a custom harness The harness will be re-routed elsewhere, I will be spending on wires anyhow so I dont need your clip, I needed information. And for futur reference, in futur threads, I dont need your opinion on what time, money or things I should or should not do on my car, nor do I need you to judge my experience and/or know-how.
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What is this comment based on, post count?
Let me ask you this, what is it that you do for a living?
You see, I never found the need to memorize pin outs by heart since I can find them easily on this thing we call "The Internet", or my computer for that matter, and afterward, I use another brilliant thing called a printer. Its awesome man, you should try it, it saves a bunch of time.
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Let me ask you this, what is it that you do for a living?
You see, I never found the need to memorize pin outs by heart since I can find them easily on this thing we call "The Internet", or my computer for that matter, and afterward, I use another brilliant thing called a printer. Its awesome man, you should try it, it saves a bunch of time.
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You are the the one with the the arrogance problem, making wild claims that the S4 and S5 sensors are different and that our kit will cost you more money. If you looked for 2 seconds on the "internet" you would see we sell a kit without sensors, which allows for the use of the FD MAP sensor. You are not making anything custom, you are just making a "hack" engine harness that is bound to fail and cost you a bunch of time and money (and possibly a blown engine) in the end. I will make sure to avoid answering your future questions, which is too bad for you, since I actually do "know it all" about installing the FD PFC in the S4 and S5 considering I am the individual that developed the adapters and coil modification. You obviously have a very limited knowledge of your car, wiring and EMS's, and I highly doubt you will ever get it running, but good luck.
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You are the the one with the the arrogance problem, making wild claims that the S4 and S5 sensors are different and that our kit will cost you more money. If you looked for 2 seconds on the "internet" you would see we sell a kit without sensors, which allows for the use of the FD MAP sensor. You are not making anything custom, you are just making a "hack" engine harness that is bound to fail and cost you a bunch of time and money (and possibly a blown engine) in the end. I will make sure to avoid answering your future questions, which is too bad for you, since I actually do "know it all" about installing the FD PFC in the S4 and S5 considering I am the individual that developed the adapters and coil modification. You obviously have a very limited knowledge of your car, wiring and EMS's, and I highly doubt you will ever get it running, but good luck.
Point is, you did not correct me in anything I am planning to do because you know it makes sense, you even confirmed it in your first post. And now that you realise that you made an *** of yourself, again, you just shoot your mouth off about **** that doesn't even have anything to do with the OP/subject AND no one even asked you...Way to be a real gal buddy. FYI, an opinion is like a flu, it's not because you have one that it means you have to share it.
Also, I find it funny how you checked my profile. Why would you do that? Double checking to see if shoveling manor will be effective? And why would it cost me more money making my own harness? I get them for free, weekly.
I you ask me where you can find some KD and instead of just answering your simple question I told you how bad it is for you, how expensive it is for the quality, how no cheese in the world has ever been orange naturally and so on....You'd feel like decking me and its very understandable. Thats exactly what you do, just like a bad tempered neighbor that whinnes about everything.
Also, your adapter is a piece of cake to make, so get off your high horse. And for the last time, I dont need your adapter, hell, I dont even give a **** about your adapter, you, or your store for that matter. So just go try to sell it to others that cant figure out that buying your 25$ adapter for 200$USD (what a joke btw) comes out more expensive if you are good with your hands and like spending time on the RX, which is my case.
Also, you should always be careful who you are talking to who and how. Earth is very small these days, and so is the rotary community. I am not the kind of guy you think I am, asking is always better than assuming.
Anyhow, you just nailed it shut. You will never get a penny from us. And to think that last week i was thinking about opening an account with you guys. Glad I dodged that bullet.
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Spec, why would you verbally attack someone out of the blue? If you are the master of reading wiring diagrams and making custom harnesses, then why did you even ask for help in the first place?? When you get some of the most knowledgeable members on this subject coming to you with information, you completely took it all the wrong way. I have re-read this thread several times, and fail to see where anyone insulted you at all, whatsoever, before you flew off the handle. Are you trying to be the biggest douche in the universe or something? Just be cool man. Jesus....
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