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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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FD clutch master cylinder in FC??

Hello 7s,
I have a 1990 GTUs(FC3S) and it needs some works.
In search of a new clutch master cylinder, I came across www.mazdasurplus.com and found a clutch master cylinder for a 1993 RX7(FD3S).

Bendix 12685 1 Clutch Master Cylinder 1993 Mazda RX-7 $15

Will this work for my application? or are they different?
Should I find FC3S specific cluch master cylinder?

Thanks in advance,
Dais
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 12:14 PM
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Completely different system. The FD master cylinder shares the brake master reservoir. And the clutch system is a pull type, so none of the stuff interchanges with a 2nd gen.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD bump, wondering if the above answer is still the correct answer, as I assume it is due to the technical information provided.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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No it changed, all fd stuff works in fc's now.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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wrong color, sarcasm is supposed to be yellow.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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FD clutch system is completely different from FC. slave cylinder mounts in a different way as well.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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that's what I figured based on the post from cymfc3s, but I haven't messed around with mine on my FD or the one on my friends FC so I had nothing to reference and I'm at work and he's in class so this is my only reference at the moment. At least I bumped an old thread via searching. And it never hurts to ask, thanks argh.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KKMpunkrock2011

wrong color, sarcasm is supposed to be yellow.
You're 0 for 2 in this thread. Sarcasm is teal.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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my friend that has an FD says you can but idk. what cymfc3s sayd it's completely different,.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Here's why it won't work.

Attached Thumbnails FD clutch master cylinder in FC??-fd_tranny.jpg  
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
Here's why it won't work.
Great pic but it has zip to do with the master cylinder.

The FC clutch cylinder has studs located at 12 and 6 o'clock, the FD has studs at @2 and 7 o'clock.
The FC has an integrated reservoir, the FD has no reservoir and shares fluid with the brake master.

They both use the same rebuild kit, so are apparently the same size.
This means that, assuming the stud to stud distance is equal- and I don't know if it is, you could use the FD unit if you added a remote reservoir to feed it.
Many Hondas use such a reservoir, so it'd be easy to source.

I don't recall the outlet port location/orientation on the FD MC, but it's likely you'd have to tweak the hardline to line up properly.

Seems like a lot of work to save a few bucks but it probably could be done if you wanted.
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I used FD master with FC slave during cosmo AT to manual conversion. I used FD clutch pedal also. Seems to be working, but I have troubles with gear select during driving. It might be a hydraulic issue with the clutch.
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by funklove
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I used FD master with FC slave during cosmo AT to manual conversion. I used FD clutch pedal also. Seems to be working, but I have troubles with gear select during driving. It might be a hydraulic issue with the clutch.
i have the same problem.. im using FD master and clutch pedal, with FC slave, and the clutch doesnt release until pedal is at the floor. i found out the hydraulics are all the same diameter, the difference is in the leverage of the pedal. The FC pedal must have more leverage, so when you use FD pedal with FC push-style clutch, you dont get as much movement at the clutch. the FD pull-style clutch probably doesnt need as much movement to release compared to FC
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Old Jun 14, 2015 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
i have the same problem.. im using FD master and clutch pedal, with FC slave, and the clutch doesnt release until pedal is at the floor. i found out the hydraulics are all the same diameter, the difference is in the leverage of the pedal. The FC pedal must have more leverage, so when you use FD pedal with FC push-style clutch, you dont get as much movement at the clutch. the FD pull-style clutch probably doesnt need as much movement to release compared to FC
Did you try to set the long push rod?
My clutch release is about 2/3 of the pedal stroke. And car well starts at 1/2, may be less.
I hear the primary shaft of the gearbox stops (bad bearing), but it is too hard to shift anyway even the engine is stopped. A bad transmission is as.
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 07:08 AM
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have not tried that, but i did adjust the pedal rod all the way out, so that it pushes further into the master cylinder and it helped. it is drivable now
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
have not tried that, but i did adjust the pedal rod all the way out, so that it pushes further into the master cylinder and it helped. it is drivable now
Thank you! I'll try to do the same.
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