ckyguy

Well I'm debating about selling my FC. Its body is pretty rusty underneath, and slowly creaping out, it's NA so it's not very fast, and I'm getting tired of little things needing to be replaced here and there every other week.

I'm looking into a 3rd gen integra rs, (the ones with the circular headlights); has like 140 some HP, 120 some TQ, weighs less than our FCs I've heard, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but is basically a whole lot newer and should preform the same or better I would think.

Can anyone put away their biases towards other cars and give me some comparison of facts between the two? Or anything real (not opinion) why I wouldn't want to do this?

ddub

I'm pretty sure stock vs. stock they would be the same speed after looking up times on the RS and LS (that I could find).

ajsuper7

stock for stock its close with a rx7 being a little faster than a non-vtec motor but not as fast as the vtec ones. but the rx7 will outhandle them, but tegs are not too bad to drive and dont mind corners but push them too hard and they arnt fun. ive driven 3rd gen tegs, 99 civic si, and different 2nd gen na rx7s. i like the rx7 over all of them, the civic and teg's brakes are not as good as a 2nd gens dont ask how i know..., and with a bit of money put into mods the rx7 is right with them and it doesnt take much to stomp those 'faster' lil hondas. but go drive one and see what you think, tegs obviously have an enormous aftermarket so making them fast is not too difficult. for a daily driver the teg is prolly a bit nicer but the rx7 is not bad either.

Sponge Bob Square Pants

The RS Integra does not have much performance potential.
Plus, do you REALLY want to drive a Honda? (that isn't an NSX or S2000)

About how much is one of them going for right now?

gerbraldy

I had a 90 integra (B18b) non-vtec Ls 5spd. It was alot faster than my rx7 stock. I could chirp third at 65 everytime I tried. It ran 14.8 but It had full exhaust, intake, and forged pistons. I still think a stock integra would beat a stock vert at least (my car). If your gonna buy an integra I'd get a 92 gsr 1.7 vtec, thats pretty fast stock.

drft_180sx

Besides whats wrong with Hondas? They are cheaper to make fast and are newer and easier to maintain.

I would take a Integ GS-R or Type-R or a Sec. Gen. CRX anyday over any N/A RX7.

gerbraldy

not a GTUs, they are very very nice.

FC3S_GTUs

YES!!! I agree...haha, considering that I have one! =)

dorifc3s

my stock base can take non VTEC 140hp integras like cake.

right now with my intake full exhaust i beat my friends 91 B16 VTEC swapped DA2 Integra by half a length and thats with cams intake exhaust and ecu.

why would you want to trade a 140hp rwd over a 140hp fwd?

comradegiant

Any particular reason why he put a B16 in a DA2 Integra? I'd have thought a B18C3 would have been the way to go.

My two cents, even a rusty RX is a unique machine. Yes Hondas can put down a lot of power and kick some ***. But they are dirt common. RX7's get rarer and rarer as time goes on whether through crashes, engine blows, or just plain ignorance of what they are. Keep the RX, it is a piece of automotive history.

Forcus

My guess is that since he is from Wisconsin, he means "really rusty". Pretty rusty in California means some of the paint is gone from the roof. A little rusty in the midwest means that there are gaping holes in the floors, inner and outer rockers, the subframes have huge holes, and every bolt you try to remove breaks... I know

I'd go with the Teg just because I HATE breaking bolts on 15 year old cars.. more than the next guy.

MidnightOwl

I had a 91 Integra LS-S for three years before I got my vert. I gotta say that while the Integra was really nice, and somewhat quick, I love my vert oh so much more. Sure the car will probably blow up tomorrow, but I still love it. Drivin a 7 puts you into a new bracket of car owners, and that is the crazy people. I've decided you have to be completely nuts to drive a 7. Regular people drive Integras, dont be regular...be crazy.

patman

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If you want fast, or unique, or a really nice car, go with the rex.

If you want a car that is reasonably fast, looks ok, and doesnt break much, go with the teg.

the rx7s are an oddity, and a really nice one. they are the closest us poor folks can get to a lambo or ferrari. and except for the initial price tag, they are very similar. superior performance, hard to find parts and support (this website aside), very touchy..requireing a lot of care and attention, and a lot of people will be totally impressed by them.

pat

DelSlow

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i have a friend who has a turboed teggy LS, hes spent about 5 or 6 grand on a turbo kit, exhaust, ect, and ran a 13.6 at 8 psi on street tires, he could probably hit a 12 on slicks, so their not too terribly slow when modded.

Sponge Bob Square Pants

Did I say anything about stock performance?

Sponge Bob Square Pants

Nothing is wrong with Hondas (in general), I just wouldn't want to be labeled due to all the "interesting" honda owners out there that tarnish tha name.

I think we have different ideas of what fast is.
Yes it may be newer and cheaper to maintain, which is GREAT! and probably makes it a better deal to buy.

All I'm comparing is the performance potential of both cars, or the lack there of.

ckyguy

Because the RWD rx7 SUCKS to drive on ice in the winter, I could therefore drive the integra year round.

Haha, it’s not quite gaping holes in the floor rusty…wait actually I did see a couple small holes when I took out some carpet to fix my hatch release, ok the entire bottom is nearly all rust, and creeping up the body now. And yes, breaking bolts, or should I say cutting/drilling bolts is a pain in my ****. Not to mention I have to do this more than I think I should. The integra would be half the age, and I don’t see any rust, if I look at another one I’d expect the same. If I could afford a 7 the same year as the Teg, you know what I’d go with hands down, but I’m only spending 5 grand.

I do like how the 7 is unique and handles great, but mine is not fast in my book, my 4 cyl camry can keep up with it. Maybe I got other problems I don’t know about that hold it back, but I’m thinking I don’t want to stick around and find out.


Thanks for all the replies so far, I am considering keeping the 7 a little more now.

Gene

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Of course you could, it's FWD. It was chirping from lack of traction, not lots of power. The integras are some of the best handling FWD cars, but they are still FWD.

SecondgenRX_7

think what a fwd has to do compared to a rwd. fwd has to steer,brake,and put power to the ground, you loose horse power through all of that

GlitchFC

well i just cant stand FWD. period. no FWD for me!

soyo

my stock 7 beats early 90's integras, civics, etc. with pretty decent ease. plus everybody and their mother has a honda... seriously, mothers drive them too... how many moms do you see driving 7's? not to many I'm guessing... that tells you which car is meant to be a sports car right there if you ask me, although hondas can be fast, I still say the rotary is the way to go

KNONFS

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Stock VS stock, it will NEVER handle like the FC!

Stock vs stock, FC will ALLWAYS be faster!

Now same body with susp mods, and a hybrid engine

gerbraldy

Acura integra's are really nice cars, I hate fwd though. I'm not trying to put the rx7 down but when my integra started to get crappy, (clutch slip..etc.) I could still beat my friends 85 1/2 944, that only had 38,000 orig miles. So it still ran pretty good. If honda made all their nice cars, which is alot of them, and just made them rwd, They would demolish all the other car "brands". But, they don't have a rotary engine so, who needs em.

Gene

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non turbo 944 = teh slow!

Russ

ive run my friend in his 95 gsr and i beat him most of the time when we drop to 3rd on the highway...he cant shift that well tho and hes only got a cat back apexi n1 exhaust. i have to say one thing tho. i love the way vtec sounds