Jzavala

yeah, i'd love to see a rally rx workin a rally well.

wanna_be_dk

if there ever is a scca event go there, i bet there will be 1 or 2

Shainiac

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Depending on the type of rallying being done ( especially with now being winter) A narrower than stock tire can be benificial. Some rally cars run as narrow as a 175/ withdth

matthewromeril

i've got, race, and built an rx7 rally car its great i love it and it works realy well. the only cars that are as quick cost a hell of a lot more to build.

raptor22

From what I understand, the FB is a better choice because it has more suspension travel.

Personally, I would go with a jetta instead of a 7....

stevej88na

I met a guy at SevenStock from Sweden that is apparently part of some rotary rally club. Sounded like fun to me, I wish rally was more popular in the US!

Ashyukun

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Yeah, I've seen a FB several times at the rallycross events my friends run- though it's got a V8 in it and not its original rotary. It usually does quite well.

blmcquig

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well, since you want to rally, you dont need to worry about "maximum tire i can fit"
15 is the biggest you will find in a rally tire. go 14. they are cheaper, and you can get them all over the place. dont worry too much about other stuff, your suspension is the most important. and dont plan on having your 7 last long. theres a saying in the rally community "there are those who have rolled their cars, and those who will".
plus, an RX7 is G5, and unless you are a seasoned vet, you may not be able to run a 7 at all.
are you going to go through rally america or NASA?

masao

WHat the hell did you do to your hood?


Rx7 so make great rally cars, FCs and FBs. I would personally use an FB since they are about 500 Lbs lighter and have more suspension travel.

You will need all new suspension and a nice diff, if nothing else, or your car WILL die. And be prepared to buy a ton of spare parts. It won't be cheap either. I'd say save your money kid.

TheAbsence

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For the price, buy the previous generation WRX and drop a modern STI engine in with a new ECU from a junkyard. It would be cheaper, and perform better. And as a benefit, you wouldn't screw up your RX7. Theres a ton of cars out there that are better at rallying and cheaper than an RX7, and if you tear one of those up, no worries because there will be 3 more bought from a dealership. The RX7 is out of production, and I would hate seeing one drop out due to rallying.

Edit: Just my two cents.

wanna_be_dk

i was just wandering about the tires size so i can see what i can get, but as for goin pro, if i can i will, but this is just for me and my friends, we have a little car club and we do rallies and drifts, i would love to make it a profession, but my 2 years of experince is no where neaar enough, it is jut a really fun hobbie, but with the roll cage i am goin to install, roll-overs are goin to be no biggie.

TheAbsence

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Wait wait wait - I just realized you got a major flaw in your plan.

You're going to raise the suspension for rallying, but you know you want it low for drifting right? Not to mention you don't want a fatty tire for drifting, or you'll be stalling a lot.

Ah man, don't use your RX7 for either of those, they're special, be nice to them.

Asterisk

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Umm, ok, a "Drift" is a driving technique to go faster around an otherwise realy tight and slow corner, in rally racing, you will be using it on half the corners anyway, so i dont see tha point? Also, why not buy a Datsun 510 for the job, drop in the 13B, and sell off the chassis to someone? Would go towards a good cage, and suspension mods.

also, considering it's a 510, you can even go N/A and still be fast as hell.

lovingthefc3s

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I would have to say that the 90-93 celica GT-4 all-trac turbo is the best rally car by far, especially for the money. But heres an Rx-7 I found from this forum that is a rally car and has All Wheel Drive!!!

Later,
-Dustin.

lovingthefc3s

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oh yea..................its a 20B too!

philiptompkins

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yup I got 225's on my stock wheels

TheAbsence

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With that much modding, I could rally my mom's buick.

masao

All Tracs are awesome and they are tanks. They were sold as rally cars with interiors for the sole purpose of homologation, and are the grand parenst of todays Evo's and STI's.

I have a modded one and they are expensive to mod and expensive to buy too. And for the record there less than 6k of them imported to the US between 1988 and 1993. Everyone will destroy their first rally car. It happens. Some people rally All Tracs professionally, but if you wad one up messing aroun din the field behind you house you will be ridiculed pretty bad.

I put them in the category of "can be used as rally cars by proffessional but are too rare to learn on"

Go buy a 90's Subaru Impreza 2.5RS.

Secondmessiah

i have an old saab 900 that I am totally gonna rally this spring

and by rally, i mean my buddy and i are going to dick around in a muddy field while shooting a potato gun out the sunroof

many people forget that there was a time when the swedish ruled the rally circuits

wanna_be_dk

see, i know that the tires will change, i was goin to get some cheap rims, and slap some rally tires on them, and get some good rims with drift tires. as for the suspension, i was goin to get the tein coilovers, so i can have a stock setting, and a drift setting, since the teins have the elctronicly controled hight control option, so that part is coverd. drifting and rally is vary close to the same thing, i know that there are some diffs, but it is over all the same. i would love to have a jetta or a datsun, but i have to use what i have, there are many fc's that rally,drift, or people who just drive them for what they are. i love to rally and drift, so i am goin to use it, thanks for the help.......god i need a sti or a evo

matthewromeril

i bought and built it for £5000 no other cars i've ever seen in the last 6 years i've been racing in the rallys have been as quick for the money. and sounds easy just buy a 4wd evo or wrx yeah and watch it break shafts diffs ect.
oh and i have a diff and suspenshion is in the post.
gonna spend another 5000 on it this year.
I race what i love i don't have the £300,000 ($550,000) that the winning car cost to spend so i race for fun.
I put every part of my car together an enjoy it. If i wanted something else i would by it.

papiogxl

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Frist, Tein only has an electrically adjustable dampening force, not height. For height you still need to do it manually, then you also will need an alignment every time you change.

Second drifting and rally are two completely different beasts. While they may seem similar, the suspension geometry and traction requirements are completely different, as are the driving techniques.

My advice would be to not mess with anything, save for tires, if that, and go to some events with a stock car. You will develop more as a driver with a stock car, hen after a season, start modifying it.

micah

I've thought about Ralli-fying an FC... and it would probably do really well in the PR or M2 classes. But, you must understand that you will eventually have 2 or 3 options. Spend a LOT of money on armor/cage that protects you/your car... then more money to fix your car after every race... then MORE money into the engine to push all of that armour you just put on...(not to mention suspension,brakes,tires,etc) OR.. You can put a little of the neccesary armor/cage, and maybe a little into the engine... tires.. suspension etc.... and then beat the **** out of your car.. the last option generally guarantees your car will never drive perfect on the road again, but its a lot of fun.

I recommend you buy a beater FC and do the second option. You'll spend more time having fun NOT worrying about your car and the money you spent on it, and less time wondering if the turn you are about to make is going to kill your car's suspension.

There is a third option, which is get a different car altogether. Celica, subie, etc. I like the AWD classes, but they are REALLY packed with people and hard to compete in. RWD/2WD (PR/M2) classes are easier to compete in and IMO require more skill.

I've never competed in Rally.... I *ALMOST* did... and did plenty of research into what it would take and practiced on dirt roads and planned my own course loaded up my best friend... and gave him a map. One of my friends has been doing Rallycross for a while now, and typically sticks with the cheaper AWD platforms like the all-trac, subies, etc. He never wins.. but he gets damn close for the pile of crap he puts on the course.

Anyways...... good idea... but, if you have to ask.... you aren't ready.

red_s5_fc3s

Just buy an old bmw. They make pretty good rally cars and you can get a plethora of rally suspension parts for them. Plus, if you roll it, you can get another one.

matthewromeril

red is right i have three friends that are building bmw rally cars great piece of kit for the money they use 325's. one is finished and has raced it has a 2.3 cosworth engine. one has a vauxhall and one is standard engine.

we do tarmac rallies (on road) but its small lanes with walls, hedges, houses ect each side very tight and very fast. its not who has the biggest engine its who has the biggest brakes and the biggest *****.

i have a mark 5 ford escort xr3i i use for off road rallys and i dont care if i kill it there so cheap to get.