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Old 11-28-05, 06:50 PM
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I have a N/A 91 FC but im going to change the engine cause i kinda have to. i know i can rebuild my 13B and all but i want to know what a 20B is and is it possible to use that in my FC.. i know a 20b is a 3 rotor engine and can have high hp. is it to much to use a 20B in my FC or can i use it? also after the engine i want to know what else i can do to raise its hp. like adding a turbo, intake and filter etc. anything, but i dont want to kill the mpg way to much. i dont want to go around getting 5mpg ya know.. my uncle made that mistake with his firebird and he gets 6mpg..
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You can put a 20b in an FC. Check the 20b section.
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u can search for all of this info ....

ill say this an avarage 20B swap, will cost you probably 8 grand or so..... and will require a standalone fuel system....

adding a turbo is pretty hard on a 91 NA it has rather high compression and very careful tuning is required..... and if u have to ask you dont know how to do this....

some decent performance mods, would be a full exhaust system that means with a header! , and a real cold air intake. if you do have to get a rebuild or somthing, you should get a mild street port too..
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how much hp do you think i can get out of a 13b
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You can make alot, be more specific in your question.
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Depends on how much money you have to spend.

Given a budget, and if you listed what car you currently have, we can probably throw together a decent list to get more power and fit into your budget.
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ok lets say i have about 3,000 to use with my N/A
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The 20b swap will run a bit more then that.
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If you decide to drop in a 20B, you can forget about trying to keep the gas mileage.
I have read that putting it together would cost about $10,000 or more. Check the 20B Section.

If you have $3,000 to use with your N/A, I'd suggest getting it rebuilt.
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no im saying that i am getting a new 13b the 3k is for mods
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buy a turbo engine instead, and spend the 3k doing the rest of the conversion
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turbo engine, even though my N/A is a automatic..
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well it seems as though your just screwed from the get go....no if you have a n/a and put a turbo engine in..you would have to follow your whole drivetrain with a turbo tranny, driveshaft, and halfshafts....
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what about just adding a turbo to a N/A
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Originally Posted by RedSuns-Ryousuke
what about just adding a turbo to a N/A
It's hard, but the best way to find out info on the subject (cause it's asked several times a week) is to use the SEARCH function in the upper right-hand corner of the browser.

All of your questions have been covered 1,000,000,000 times before. So, that's a good thing, because you will have days of research and reading ahead of you, so that you will be able to determine for yourself the best approach to take.
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Why don't you tell us how much money you got in your bank account, and we'll tell you what you can and cannot do?


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Why don't you tell us how much money you got in your bank account, and we'll tell you what you can and cannot do?


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I believe he said around three grand.
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starting with an automatic, $3k, make it as fast as possible?

remove 13b, stock trans, throw in trash.

insert 302, 302 auto.
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Originally Posted by eriksseven
I believe he said around three grand.
"Around three grand"?
For about $3,000, all you can do is get the motor (J-Spec) and the rest of the Turbo II drivetrain.


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I just have to laugh at the idea that he wants a 20B but in the same paragraph he only has $3K and doesn't want the gas mileage to go down.

Not too many 20Bs that even get any better than 11-13 MPG.
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OUCHIES well how much power are those 20b's pumpin out that u speak of?
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My guess is about 300-400hp. Go to the 20B section and search.
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How about this. Just go buy a damn turbo2. Sell your non turbo. AND USE THE SEARCH FEATURE HERE MORE OFTEN.









wow...where did that come from?
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Originally Posted by RXfeaver
My guess is about 300-400hp. Go to the 20B section and search.

that expalines the terrible gas milage...lol
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umm...if you have $3k..sell your car and use that with the $3k to buy a TII...alot less work and you can get a decent TII for that price.

OR...buy a tII with mods and a blown motor for $1000 or so...and have the motor rebuilt for with the $2k or so you have left.


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