Extra!! Extra!!! Disconnected S5 TPS results in seemingly better fuel economy
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Extra!! Extra!!! Disconnected S5 TPS results in seemingly better fuel economy
This is S5 TII
So, I disconnected my TPS last night because my idle was really sucking. BOOM!!! 750RPM solid I have no BAC either. I was mildly surprised. Second thing i noticed, the A/F gauge I have (not wideband) started hovering in the "ideal" range instead of rich during idle. Lastly on the road the A/F gauge would roam, indicating the ECU is in closed loop (i think that's what it's called I keep confusing the definitions of closed and open loop).
Either way, my car seems to be managing fuel more efficiently. I can rev all the way to redline and it richens up appropriately. I promptly ran out and put 4oz of oil into my gas tank along with a full tank of gas. I'm sure that's overkill but oh well, it's done.
The reason I'm posting is to find out if the TPS really does have to be connected for the MOP to work. Does anyone really know?
So, I disconnected my TPS last night because my idle was really sucking. BOOM!!! 750RPM solid I have no BAC either. I was mildly surprised. Second thing i noticed, the A/F gauge I have (not wideband) started hovering in the "ideal" range instead of rich during idle. Lastly on the road the A/F gauge would roam, indicating the ECU is in closed loop (i think that's what it's called I keep confusing the definitions of closed and open loop).
Either way, my car seems to be managing fuel more efficiently. I can rev all the way to redline and it richens up appropriately. I promptly ran out and put 4oz of oil into my gas tank along with a full tank of gas. I'm sure that's overkill but oh well, it's done.
The reason I'm posting is to find out if the TPS really does have to be connected for the MOP to work. Does anyone really know?
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Sounds like a faulty TPS sensor...Since the MOP is controlled by the full range TPS, disconnecting it will probably default the ECU into some "safe" setting...
But this is NOT the proper way to fix your car. Test the TPS for smoothness (consistant resistance increase) throughout it's range...replace if necessary. Or, start by simply adjusting it correctly.
But this is NOT the proper way to fix your car. Test the TPS for smoothness (consistant resistance increase) throughout it's range...replace if necessary. Or, start by simply adjusting it correctly.
If you disconnect the TPS the ECU will default to narrow-range signal of 100% and a full-range signal of 20%. This will result in increased fuel consumption, as the injectors are not turned off when the throttles closed, and most likely insufficient oil injection at large throttle openings.
Your problems sound like they were caused by the TPS being either faulty or simply being set incorrectly. Don't leave the TPS unplugged. It's not good for the engione in the long run.
Your problems sound like they were caused by the TPS being either faulty or simply being set incorrectly. Don't leave the TPS unplugged. It's not good for the engione in the long run.
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AFAIK that's not actually in the FSM but it makes perfect sense when you compare the electronic OMP to the older mechanical one, which was directly regulated by throttle position.
The info I posted on the ECU is from the Self-Diagnosis section of the EFI chapter.
The info I posted on the ECU is from the Self-Diagnosis section of the EFI chapter.
Here is link to a video of a really worn out TPS <Click Here>
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Originally posted by SureShot
Here is link to a video of a really worn out TPS <Click Here>
Here is link to a video of a really worn out TPS <Click Here>
when you floor the car, the plunger is fully released, and the resistance should be 5000 +/_ 1000 ohms. If it is zero resistance, it is broken.
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