importedrx7

i have a video of the starting trouble it is giving me you can view the video here at http://www.myspleen.com/matt/rxe..avi i also have another video i will add tomorrow of it in the day light but also i got a video of the gauges and idoit lights tell me what you think Fc memebers......?

importedrx7

Here also is another video of the inside while tryin to start http://www.myspleen.com/matt/rxs.avi

poor_red_neck

What kind of codec do I need? I only get sound.

I have divx....

importedrx7

The codec is avi

AcidShock

iTrader: (49)

Are you getting spark? Get a spark plug tester, crank it, and see if it lights up.

importedrx7

when i view it to all it is sound can you go by sound then what is sounds ike is wring with it?????? ill try to fix the picture to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

importedrx7

well i think im getting spark cause i was stupid and hooked the spark plugs to the igniter coil while the spark plug was out and it was sparking!

asuka42227

these things can be simple. check spark. check fuel. It also might be flooded. If you have a S5(89-91)you can put the gas to the floor and it closes off the fuel line. Helps throw the extra gas out of the dynamic chamber. If your a S4 then do a search on flooding. Good luck.

importedrx7

naw it is not flooded cause i did everything i that there is to unflood even changed the oil in the spot where it still sits took all the fuse out and **** did all the unflood stuff i could find how would i check the fuel on my 1990 n/a fc? also i got a fuel switch on my car to that is made to shut the fuel pump off when the car is off??? previous owner did it? im lost

Templeswain

Um, that sounds like it wants to kick over.

Do you feather the gas at all or just completely leave the gas pedal alone?

I know this sounds weird, but try tapping the gas pedal rappidly while you're trying to kick it over. I used to have to do that when I had a hard starting problem.

If it starts you could have an aray of possible problems.

But what the #1 culprit is, I do not know.

seveninphilly

iTrader: (7)

I know that sound OH! too well it's flooded to hell or lack of compression (due to stuck or missing/broken apex seal) thats why it will spin so fast.

1. if you can tow the car get it up to good speed drop the clutch in second with the key in the on position this will have enough rpm, centrifugal force to get the apex seals to break loose and or will blow all of the gas/condensation out and the car will fire up.

2. If you have a very strong battery pour 1/4 to 1/2 oz. 10w/30 oil into each rotor chamber (three per rotor) on front and rear rotors. Turn the engine manually if possible to spread the oil throughout, let it sit for about 5 min. turn the fuel cut switch on, peddle to the floor crank the engine till you hear it start to catch then pump the peddle vigorously till it finally catches then stay on the gas to keep it running till it will idle on it's own (caution this will smoke like hell for about 10-20mins so make sure you have good ventilation and the fire dept. doesn't get called on you)

importedrx7

yes i do do the gas peddle thing really fast when it starts to catch that is how i usally get it started when it is flooded but i know it is not flooded cause ive did everthing i could or have found online to unflood it!!!!
i bought a new fuel pump today should be here tomorrow or tuesday if that dont work i dont know what will?????? any other thoughts?

importedrx7

Hey Seven i would due that but the car is automatic !!!! any way to do that with an automatic? due for a 5 speed swap SOON

Templeswain

tuesday if that dont work i dont know what will?????? any other thoughts


Well, all I can really do is stab in the dark. There's a lot of things that can cause this.

So I guess I'll start the first stab. Primary fuel injectors and their seals.

Before it totally failed....when you were able to get it started by feathering the gas pedal, once it was warmed up, did it fire up right away without quite as much trouble if say you turned it off for about 20 minutes?

Smoken'

iTrader: (1)

put some ATF fluid in it. Really sounds like its flooded. If u have a kill switch for the fuel pump, make sure that all of the wires are connected up to the back of the switch. I had one pop off on me one time. Took me a little while to figure that one out. Good luck...

importedrx7

ya i check the switch plus it has i light on the switch so if it didnt turn on i would know the switch wouldnt light up so can be that im gonna try the new pump on tueday then we will go from there
Also i did the ATF trick and the fuse trick and changed the oil and the spark plugs no luck.

rotarygod

iTrader: (1)

If you floor it while you crank it over there is no fuel entering the engine. It gets cut off. This has been a feature since 1989. Your fuel cutoff switch is redundant. I don't personally recommend the atf method unless the engine has been sitting unstarted for a few years. Unfortunately you have an auto and this really complicates matters as you have found out. I would remove the plugs and plug wires (you'll see) entirely and crank the engine over for a little while to help purge any remaining fuel in the engine. Don't get shocked by the open coils. You could also just unplug them if you don't like living dangerously. Then I would make sure that the plugs are clean and replace them. Plug everything back together. Hold the pedal to the floor for a while and periodically let your foot off and see if it starts. If it doesn't just keep your foot down and crank longer. You may need to do this with a battery charger hooked up. Do not do this for too long to avoid burning up your starter. Give it time. As long as you have a good spark and fuel it should come back.

gugge

took me 2 days to start when my friend tryed to start my car by flooring it for 5 min thinking it was a V8 or something.

the thing that got mine working was removing the lower spark plug, fuel pump power and then cranking untill the "air push" was "dry" then waiting some to let it dry some more .. did that like 5 times, 2 weeks later my apexes broke

no rotary novice will ever get to start my car alone again!.

/bo

SureShot

The compression may be a little low, but not that bad.
I agree it does not sound flooded.

I'm thinking a little more starter RPM would do it.
A fresh charge on the battery and a jump from another car at the same time.

rx78788

no, i just got done fixing my rx7 that was majorly flooded, and your car sound the exact same to me. try this link it helped me out

http://www.rx7.com/tech/unflood-fc.html

importedrx7

hey i bought a new battery and did the jump still does that **** also did the stuff it said on that page like 2 days ago still no luck i bought a new fuel pump and some new sparks maybe it will turn over and start wish me luck!!!!!

importedrx7

ok it was not the fuel pump it was leaky injector what do i do know please help?????

nonameo

get em cleaned. RC is the place.

Nowhere

Compression sounds good, I hope it spins LOTS faster with a new battery. Have you cleaned the crap out of the spark plugs latley?

I'd say try the ole 1/4 cup of gas in the intake trick. That should rule out some stuff. Have you checked for sparks? Did you reverse the leading/trailing plugs/wires?

importedrx7

ok new battery new plugs !!!!! but i have to order the the o ring and gommert from a local mazda dealer auto zone dont got them so when i get themn and install it back on the fuel rail im hoping the car starts up also my engine i dont rember if it was half way dead or had alot of charge so i couldnt tell you but i will take it to the auto shop and have them check it out and recharge it.. also last night whe ntrying to reinstall every thing on the fuel rail i broke a bolt head off that holds down the fuel rail now i got to drill the stub out and get a new bolt


sorry for the long post but i try to be specific any safe ideas on how to get the broke stub out of the block ?????