GordiniRX7

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Im new to rotories and Im just straight up confused about where everything goes on this thing.
This is a video of me trying to start it. but it doesnt start startinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2OC1aZBtY

these are a couple of pics of the engine if anyone can tell me if there is anything wrong with them






If anyone could help me that would be great!!

hellisholds77

that last picture you do have the ignition wire out of the box but i doubt thats your problem

polito Racing

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sounds like a flooded car. push start it or pull the egi fuse in the engine bay (D/S shock tower). turn the key to start about 3 times for no longer than 10 secs reinstall the fuse attempt starting. that should work. also your battery sounds like its about to go. you might want to get it charged.

Sojin

well both sound good but it sounds like low compression if what polito say do not work u might want to remove the spark plugs and have a friend crank it and just have your hand 3-5in out and u should feel it blow

ncfc3s

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poor starter

GordiniRX7

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Ive already tried the egi fuse and that didnt work
the battery is bad! every time I go to start it I have to jump it with one of my other cars

Sojin

Have u check the compression yet

Sojin

Check your Pm

Sojin

Ha i was looking over your pic on the 2nd and the 3rd u see that hose it gose to your air pump but it should be connected to your intake system b4 the turbo and should have a mass airflow sensor befor that to so im trying to say is reconnect all your air intake system. If thats the case u have been running way to lean for it to realy start up because thats way to much air/fuel ratio

HAILERS

My, my. When you try starting in the video, then let off the key, all can hear the electric fan come on.

That means one or two things. One would be the EGI fuse is blown or two would be that the spade connector on the water tem sensor for the electric fan is pulled off the sensor.

So, look at the water thermostat housing and on that housing is a single blade connector on a sensor. NOT on the back of the water pump housing, on TOP of the water termostat housing/filler area.

There is a relay involved in the electric fan operation. Lose power or lose the gnd to it and the fan then has power and comes on............like in your video.

Power is from the EGI fuse in the engine bay. See if that fuse is good. It also keeps power from the coils/igniton.

And just why did you not say if you had/did not have spark?????????? I would not have written the above if you had mentioned one way or the other if you had spark or not.

Both fuse boxes are shown in the FAQ thread.

The lack of a good ENGINE fuse could also account for no spark/no fuel/stuff.

If you've jumpered the fuel pump check connector, and the pump ran with the key to ON, then the EGI and Engine fuses are good, and disregard the above.

Find the line that goes from the fuel filter to the engine. Do not pull that line off. Pull the Return line off. Hold the key to Start for a few seconds OR jumper the fuel pump check connector with the key to ON and see if fuel flows out the hard return line on the engine. It should.

If you check for spark, look at a LEAD wire instead of a Trail wire. Trail coils sometimes go into a fail safe mode, and that'll trip you up.

HAILERS

IN your video, looking toward the engine, off to the right as you look aft, there Seems to be a sparking action. It is too dark to tell what is making that sparking action. It could just be a reflection of SOMETHING else. Or is it a spark?????? Probably a reflection of something or other is my GUESS.

t24todd

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your thermostat blade is rusted and bent over...it isnt even plugged in so your fan with stay on as lone as your ign is on..plug it in

Stacy

Did you find out what was wrong? Mine (non-turbo) sounds like this too from the video but I didn't TRY to crank for 20 seconds! LOL

GordiniRX7

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I have not been able to get it to start yet.
Its probably because I have a bad fuel pump

polito Racing

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dude if you werent so far away i would go down there and help you out. but its about 4 hours away each way. my father inlaw lives on myrtle beach ill pm you if i go to visit him any time soon so i can swing by and help you out. ill still keep my eye on the thread. also if you somehow get it to my house i can check it out for you. Ill keep my eye on the thread.

Stacy

Well, you should prolly pull the hose that runs from the pump to the motor. Have someone try to start the car while you check to see if fuel squirts out. The hose is right between the oil filter & the oil cap (the one on the left).

arghx

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Pulling a fuel hose is not necessary. There is a two prong fuel pump check connector (yellow, sometimes has some insulating crap around it) on the passenger side shock tower. With the key in the on position, jumper these terminals and listen for the fuel pump running.

GordiniRX7

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Every time I try starting the car I pull those 3 hoses off to see if there has been any flow through them and they all are dry.

HAILERS

That would account for the fan...........but what picture above do you see that in???? Somehow I'm missing seeing that.

Is the ENGINE fuse good or not???????? You say the EGI is good. How about the ENGINE fuse?

If you believe it's a bad fuel pump, then buy a can of Starter fluid. Spray no more than three seconds in the air filter assy, then try starting the engine. If it was a fuel delivery problem, then the engine will start/cough/run for a few moments.

Do what the fellow said. Jumper the yellow, two socket fuel pump check connector near the right front strut tower area. Key to ON, the pump should run if the ENGINE fuse is good. Listen for fuel passing thru the fuel rails and splashing back into the fuel tank. It will run continuously.


EDIT:::::: I opened my eyes. Yes. In the second picture you can see the blade for the fan thermostat, and it has no wire going to it. Try to find that wire and put it on the blade. That will stop the fan from running when the key is to ON. IT should be a green/black wire with a black connector. Only one wire.

Did you say you have or do not have spark? I missed it in the posts above one way or the other.

Show a jpg of your afm/filter assy. The plug does not have to be on the afm for the engine to start. But it'll only start momentarily if that plug is off.

Stacy

Hopefully its just the fuel pump & nothing worse. It could be something as simple as a clogged fuel filter, u might wanna check that out first!

Mine ended up having low compression =( Apparently, I blew my seals & possibly need a rebuild. What a blower.

GordiniRX7

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Alright well I found the wire and plugged it onto the thermostat thing and the fan turned off when the key is on
I put the air intake thingy back on and hooked everything back up nothing happened
Ive already used an entire can of starting fluid and it didnt start
I try pouring a little fuel into the carb but most of it leaks out!
but now nothing happens when I try starting it!
I turn the key to start and the whole car dies
Ive been trying to "clean" the battery cables but its no use

GordiniRX7

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Well now I finaly got a socket to fit the plugs and took them off to find that they are the $13 ea. NGK R plugs! I checked each plug for spark and found that neither of the 2 trailing coils are getting spark but but leading are, I unbolted the trailing coils and found a little yellow and blue wire unhooked

Malefoda

Do crank engine for hours can bring a sudden miracle?
I'll change the ignition wires, I've seen 2 FC3S won't start because of that even if they look good.

GordiniRX7

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Ill sit there for hour after hour just cranking the engine because Im too pour to but the things I need for it!
But I dont even get spark from the coil itself! I tested all four coils and only the leading had spark, so I figure Ill get new wires and a good set of trailing coils!

Kandle's rx7

i had the same exact problem. ur starter is fine. otherwise all it would do is make one click noise and quit. ur problem is ur not getting ne spark. wut i did was take out the spark plugs, covered the ends of them with wd40 and lit it on fire and let the ends burn clean. this worked for me. i did all four. its a pain but worth it. after ur done with that take off the manifold and have someone spray a little bit of starter fluid inside while u try to crank it. eventually it will finally turn over. once it does it will cut off immediately. now very quickly put the manifold securely together and crank it. it should stay on. let it run a little. just dont keep tryin to start it over and over again. u will burn the crap out of the starter. if u dont want to do all of this. just by new spark plugs.