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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:52 AM
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Charged the battery and it still wont crank
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:57 AM
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Does the car have the factory alarm?
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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No it doesnt.
I may take the car to a shop, just talked to that guy.. im a real dumbass when it comes to electrical problems.
It cant be the ecu ground i think, the engine has only 2000 kilometers on it and has sat in a dry garage for 4 years
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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If the starter doesn't activate w/key to on then you need to check if the wipers work w/key to on. If they don't then the Main fuse is likely blown. If the wipers work then you need to find a plug near the trailing coil which has a thick Black/Green wire and a similar gauged Black/Blue wire. W/key to start the Black/Blue wire should have at least 8 to 9 volts.
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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If the starter doesn't activate w/key to on then you need to check if the wipers work w/key to on. If they don't then the Main fuse is likely blown. If the wipers work then you need to find a plug near the trailing coil which has a thick Black/Green wire and a similar gauged Black/Blue wire. W/key to start the Black/Blue wire should have at least 8 to 9 volts.
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i will check it tomorrow when im back there
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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On your car the Ignition Switch powers the Black/Blue wire which is jumpered to the thick Black/Green wire which then runs to the Interlock Switch which w/the key to start and clutch pedal depressed powers the Black/Red wire which triggers the starter solenoid. So, just follow the process through each wire and you'll find your problem.
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Is this the right plug? Only one i found what has black/blue and black/green wires
Those wires didnt show any voltage
Wipers work, the starter also works for half a second or so, shown in the video

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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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If you rotated the alternator pulley by hand (using a socket wrench) does it rotate the main pulley freely or is it very hard to rotate?

If it's easy to rotate then find the Black/Red wire connected to the starter solenoid and w/the car in neutral jumper voltage to this wire from the battery and the starter should activate and turn over much more than in your video. Does it do this?
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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No i cant turn the main pulley
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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If the main pulley does not turn then there is something going on within the engine preventing it from rotating as it should rotate fairly easily.
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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Yeah i figured it out. Damn. the oil buzzer only turns on when the oil level is low?
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 12:45 PM
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normally the oil buzzer comes on when the oil level is near critical, about 1-1.5 quarts left in the pan.

but commonly the wire is broken to the oil level sender preventing it from grounding out, meaning no buzzer or any sort of low oil warning.
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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I was never low of oil, thats for sure. But maybe there wasnt any pressure afterall.. then im fukd. Gonna remove plugs tomorrow and try to turn it.

Thanks for help everyone
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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Took out the plugs, loosened all the belts, and the pulley didnt move to any direction. Strange, never heard of a oilpump failure. And it ran like 20 kilometers like that. Oil was changed 700 km ago. Just broke it in.
Really mad at myself. Hope i can drive it next year

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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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so the engine was rebuilt 700km ago? then pay close attention while tearing the engine apart, but to be up front don't be too hopeful. a seized rotary engine usually will have quite a bit of damage and fairly low amount of usable parts if it did really starve of oil.

main thing to check is to be sure the oil pump key is still in place, it slips out very easily and allows the pump gear to spin freely on the shaft but still turn somewhat for a delayed failure.
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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the engine was rebuild 2200 km ago. changed the oil 700 km ago.. without oil pressure its probably dead.
after a few days i possibly can take the front iron away and take a look.. lost hope already..
i have a spare s4 engine what is almost complete but that means my other car will never be driving again most likely
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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the woodruff key from the e-shaft was gone, i mean it was not on the oilpan and it didnt fall out anywhere... how is this possible?
thank god the electric MOP worked, it saved me one housing 2 rotors and a front iron...
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