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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Engine re-install

This is the part that I really suck at. Its putting a new block back into the engine compartment with the tranny still in.

Does anyone have any proceedural tips. Like how to aim the transmission or tilt the engine just right so this won't be so damn difficult. Everytime I do this its about as fun as playing a game of perfection only the pieces weigh anywhere from 90 to 300 pounds.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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I used the jack underneath the tranny in order to get it to the right angle that the engine was at. We used three people to do it, so that made it a bit easier when aiming it. Other than that, I don't know of any "easy" way to allign them.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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After doing this a few times I only have general "non specific" advice.

1) If you don't have one - go and rent a proper engine hoist. The "block and tackle" method is a true pain in the ***!

2) get people to help you! One person manning the hoist and one on each side of the car is best. With three (competent) people you will always have a proper view of what's going on.

3) put the front of the car up on ramps. This will give you more room under the car, and more room to tilt/push the whole assembly into place with a jack or dolly.


As I said - these are just general tips, I'm sure someone will add something more specific!

Good Luck
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Ahh keep on trucking, it's not that bad. The key is to not let the motor twist. Get that top (longest) bolt lined up and push/pull/pry from there. I have done it a couple of times, you will get it. Use 2 jacks if you can. Just keep at it... make SURE your tranny splines are lined up though or it will never drop on there right.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Thanks for tips.

I just got her back in five minutes ago. It was a little easier this time. Usually I end up palm striking it back in like I'm ******* bruce lee or something.

You're right, I need another persons help everytime I do this, but I always end up doing it by myself and it sucks.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Templeswain

Usually I end up palm striking it back in like I'm ******* bruce lee or something.

omg.. that made me laff! ty
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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The block should never be pushed in, or pried in, etc. This is an extremely easy way to damage a pilot bearing or pilot bearing seal.

Your easiest method is to support the transmission from below as high as you can, and support it in a way that it can't move around. Set the transmission into gear, and then use an engine leveller. Move the engine so that the input shaft of the transmission is just barely putting force onto the pilot beraing. Then, measure two points (an outside vernier caliper works great for this).

Measure the difference in separation from the engine to the bellhousing from a top corner and then again at the bottom of the same side. Have a friend alter the engine level until the two numbers match.

Note: a change in 1mm at the bottom equals a 1mm change at the top.

When the engine is lvelled top to bottom, it is as simple as moving the engine from left to right slowly for the engine input shaft to engage into the transmission.

This method may take a little longer, but it guarantees you won't destory your pilot bearing.


An added hint: don't drop the engine in with the engine mounts attached. Only leave the alumnium pan (right side) arm attached to the pan. This will help you maneuver the block. when the transmission engages into the engine, bolt the two together. Then hoist the engine until the top of the bellhousing just starts to touch the top of the tranny tunnel, and slip your motor mounts and brackets into place.

Easy as pie.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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C-squared thanks!

I'm printing this for next time.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Templeswain
C-squared thanks!

I'm printing this for next time.
No problem. Honestly, try leaving the mounts off. When you jack up the engine you simply slip the right engine mount into place, and the slip the left engine mount over the three studs, and lower the block. It DEFINITELY beats trying to slide the engine into the block AND make the mounts fit.
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