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Old 06-30-05, 11:11 PM
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Engine blows up after 100k? I think NOT!

Well, I was scared to death when my engine hit the 100k mile mark. Everyone keeps on telling me that these engines blow or needs a rebuild at around 100k.

Well, I bit the bullet and did a compression test today.

At 76% Humidity and 22C ambient temp, my engine tested the following

120-125-125psi front
125-120-120psi rear

Not too shabby would you say??

I have 230 000 km on the chassis and 160 000 km on the Mazda reman motor.

Oil changes every 4000 km, spark plug change every 15000 km.

BTW, I recently went to a dyno and pulled 142 rwhp an 112lbs/ft of tq.

Mods :

Stock exhaust manifold, gutted cat, stock exhaust.
Generic cone intake, Pineapple racing sleeves
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SR Motorsports FD flywheel
ACT SS clutch
Turbo II transmission
FD Torsen rearend
BBS Vert rims

I think I can use alittle bit more tq.
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Old 06-30-05, 11:12 PM
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Well whoever told you these engines blow up or need a rebuild after 100k miles is stupid.
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No, he was talking about FD's probably.
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
No, he was talking about FD's probably.
Funny you said that.

I just tested a FD's compression too.
Stock engine running stock boost.

90-90-90 psi front
85-85-90 psi rear

Weather was probably same humidity and at around 33C

He has 60k miles on stock engine.

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Sounds about right! Poor FDs.....
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Anyone know the specs on a new engine??

My engine still going strong?
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looks like you need a little more tuning too.
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Originally Posted by pd_day
Anyone know the specs on a new engine??

My engine still going strong?
Strong would be an understatement, great readings man.
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You have very good compression numbers. Probably as good as a fresh rebuilt.
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Originally Posted by Karack
looks like you need a little more tuning too.
Yeah, I have it down to 13.0 right now on WOT.
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mine went to 205k until i needed to rebuild
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stock on an FD is probably about 130PSI.

those are awesome numbers man, congrats, I guess
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I have 185K miles on mine, stock everything pretty much except for a few little tweaks (no exhaust, cone and whatnot no aftermarket fuel control) and i have 95 psi all faces. On my last dyno run i managed to squeze out 145whp and 124 lb/ft of torque. No loss of coolant into the motor or anything, i expect quite a few more miles out of this motor. BTW never listen to anyone that does not have experience with rotarys, 9 times out of 10 they will be wrong/retarded.
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any car/engine that is taken care of, not abused and maintained regularly and properly will last a nice time before any major work is to be done. plain simple fact. the reason someone may have told you this is because RX7's have a more likelyhood of abuse than say a honda accord
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You're talking NA right???
NA's are good to at least 200k miles.
With good maintenance, 300k miles is not uncommon.

If this is a 13BT, then 100k to 150k miles is about average life.
This is especially true for those engines making more power than stock, especially with full exhaust systems.


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i just grenaded my 13bT at 154 but i was running too much boost like a fool!!! i knew better.. ahh well time for rebuild
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200 - 300k on an N/A?
Is this with all stock parts or could this still be obtained with a RB street dual exhaust? I know it's a dumb question, but I'm curious. I'm looking forward to keeping this in good shape if I can obtain those numbers. Right now, at 89k on my N/A.
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Originally Posted by Mura
200 - 300k on an N/A?
Is this with all stock parts or could this still be obtained with a RB street dual exhaust? I know it's a dumb question, but I'm curious. I'm looking forward to keeping this in good shape if I can obtain those numbers. Right now, at 89k on my N/A.
Doesn't matter.
The upper limit of the engine with stock ECU is about 200 at the wheels.
Even with those elevated power levels, the 13B 6-port should be able to easily hit 200k miles with proper maintenance.


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I concur, having owned 4 NA FCs I have never blown or wore out an engine.
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i think na is the best suitable fc for the street , thats why i love mine....hoping to get her started this weekend

as far as his tuning it looks to be too lean , if it was more rich i bet he would get more hp but he said its been tuned to 13.0 afr

edit - in my opinion reted is totally right these engine can last if you take care of it properly and dont beat on it , my 2 rx7s i have one suffered a blown coolant seal at 146,000 miles (s4 na), the other suffered blown apex seals at 113,000 (s4 na also) , probably due to lack of maintainence and being beat on alot

maintainence and oil changes are very important on rx7 , if u dont maintain it right and beat on it , it will show in the long run

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I concur, having owned 4 NA FCs I have never blown or wore out an engine.

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My NA motor lasted until 102k.
I had a 88 SE which at 155k showed coolant seal signs but then miraculously fixed itself!

I sold it and someone else is driving it no problem now.
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Knowing my engine is good...

Maybe it's time to boost it....

I've tried header, presilencer, exhaust but it was too loud for my liking....
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Originally Posted by pd_day
Knowing my engine is good...

Maybe it's time to boost it....
I dunno where that logic came from, but it's not recommended.


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Old 07-05-05, 09:00 AM
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Hell, I had ~250K on my engine when I turbocharged it. Ran it for another 10K after that, before I decided to pull it apart for the porting. The engine was original to the car (as was the clutch!).
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