2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

engine blown on highway??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-13-04, 09:28 AM
  #1  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
rsturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
engine blown on highway??

Hi, I was wondering if it is possible for an rotary to blow under normal speeds, and no boost on the highway? I just sold a 1990 rx-7 turbo that ran great, but 40 minutes later, the new owner called me and he was on the side of the road with a blown motor. Is it possible for the motor to put under normal highway conditions? The motor has zero compression on the rear rotor. I need some advise!!!


thanks
Milan
Old 12-13-04, 09:45 AM
  #2  
STUCK. I got SNOWNED!!!!!

iTrader: (7)
 
Terrh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Windsor, On
Posts: 8,723
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Yep, it's very possible.

my car's first motor died at idle at a stoplight.
Old 12-13-04, 09:48 AM
  #3  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
OverDriven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: VA
Posts: 938
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes possible, but I highly doubt he was taking it easy with his new TII. What mods do you have on it?

-Joe
Old 12-13-04, 09:55 AM
  #4  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
-TAL-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Brampton
Posts: 1,199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yea, i also doubt he wasn't having some fun with it on the highway
Old 12-13-04, 10:03 AM
  #5  
Senior Member

 
rotariesrule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: usa
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
definitely possible. i doubt he was taking it easy. i know someone who bought a turbo rx-7 and blew the motor on the way home. he turned the boost up to 17 even though he was told not to because he needed a bigger fuel pump. people should make a video of the car running fine with the new owner in the car before they let them drive away.

my friends apex seal broke while he was cruising on the highway at 65mph. he had a first gen with about 120k miles. another friends e-shaft welded itself to the front main bearing while he was doing 50mph.
Old 12-13-04, 10:16 AM
  #6  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
rsturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The problem is the guy didn't know how to drive standard either, I taught him that day! My questions is, am I resposible at all? Should I split costs with him or something? The car is basically stock, bigger exhaust, and k&n filter, wlabro fuel pump, at stock boost. The car drove great when I taught him standard. Could he have damaged the engine somehow do to his lack of manual experience? Please help as I need to get theis resolved asap.

thanks
Milan
Old 12-13-04, 10:37 AM
  #7  
spending too much money..

iTrader: (2)
 
hondahater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: louisiana
Posts: 10,117
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
oh lord I guess you learned your lesson about selling these cars to a newb. There is a lot he could have done but it is all speculation. we can't say for sure what he did because we simply where not there. I feel for you man that kinda sucks but I would never sell a tII to someone that didn't know anything about it let alone how to drive a stick.
Old 12-13-04, 10:40 AM
  #8  
Letting the Smoke Out!

 
Kingofl337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
he could have over reved the engine in a miss shift.
Old 12-13-04, 10:44 AM
  #9  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
rsturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thats what I was kind of thinking, maybe he went from 5th to 2nd or something? Should I help him out, or she I let him settle it himself??


Milan
Old 12-13-04, 10:48 AM
  #10  
Brother of the Rotary

iTrader: (2)
 
eViLRotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Arkham Asylum
Posts: 5,781
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I'm pretty sure, unless otherwise stated on the bill of sale, the car is sold in as is condition and no warrantee is implied.

I am sure you made him away of any problem areas with the car before the sale.

He drove away. The rest is his problem.
Old 12-13-04, 10:52 AM
  #11  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
OverDriven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: VA
Posts: 938
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Man unless you are friends with this dude, its his deal. Once he takes ownership, its out of your hands unless you signed a warantee. I think we would all really like it if you listed mods and what kind of control he had. In other words was there an SAFC and boost controller in the car? Because if there was, and he was a newb, I think we know exactly what happened. "OOOOoooh fast car! Lets turn up the boost to 25 psi like F&F!!! KABOOOOOOOOM!"

-Joe
Old 12-13-04, 11:01 AM
  #12  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
rsturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, like I said, the mods were minimal, and I don't think he had enought time to turn the boost up or anything. This whole situation really troubles me as I am a very honest person, and I am taking this to heart. While I had the car, it was driving great. I drove the car for him two times showing that it ran good, i even went under boost to prove that everything was alright. The car is now sitting in my driveway in Hamilton, he lives in Windsor, about 300km away. He suggested I take it to a mechanic, and hopefully they can fix it for $600 which I know won't happen.

Milan
Old 12-13-04, 11:04 AM
  #13  
Letting the Smoke Out!

 
Kingofl337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could have had boost creep from larger exhaust.
Old 12-13-04, 11:09 AM
  #14  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
rsturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
there was no boost creep, the car is an s5 with the dual wastegate setup. I previously drove the car putting 15,000 trouble free kms.
Old 12-13-04, 11:22 AM
  #15  
Letting the Smoke Out!

 
Kingofl337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you have a mechanic do the work you will probably be closer to 1500.00. Something bad must of happned if it has zero compression in the rear rotor.

Side note, Why is it the rear rotor always goes first?
Old 12-13-04, 11:45 AM
  #16  
DONT FEED THE NOOBS

 
gxlbiscuit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: land of slow hondas .... TULSA, OK
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
id try to seperate myself from that car if i were you.. he probably killed it on a downshift....you shouldnt have to pay for his foolishness/over enthusiatic fastandfurisms. when we all get a new car.. we gun it and have fun because we drive fast cars...... his better judgement woud have saved the car.. umm but the fact that the car is back at your house complicates thing.. he coudl try some bull like "he said he was gonna fix it so i took it back there" if it comes down to it help him out with some of the $$$ but dont pay for it all... im just not buying the normal driving story.....
Old 12-13-04, 11:52 AM
  #17  
Back from the dead

 
are_one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Laurel, MD
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Absolutly!!! My rear seal blew at a steady 60 mph at about 2800 RPM. My advice is to suggest he subscribes to this forum.
Old 12-13-04, 11:55 AM
  #18  
DONT FEED THE NOOBS

 
gxlbiscuit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: land of slow hondas .... TULSA, OK
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ha my car died 3 weeks after i bought it .. the water jacket broke.... after i drove the car for a week after buying it it began actin wierd... wouldnt start easily... i didnt give two poops i wanted to build a rotary anways. i was mad that the car died for about an hour .. then i just started saving money and "viola" people are complaining about losing to me. "thats the fastest second gen i have ever seen" i guess they havent seen many. Thats the difference between newbies and vets the vets know what they are getting into, the newbies just want a fast and cool car ...maintnence who?
Old 12-13-04, 11:57 AM
  #19  
Throbbing Member

 
scheistermeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 853
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
in the US once the new owner takes possesion of the car it is theirs. if they make it out of the driveway and the car blows up thowing pieces of itself threw your front window, guess what? they also just bought you a new front window...
Old 12-13-04, 12:01 PM
  #20  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
OverDriven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: VA
Posts: 938
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah something similar happened to me. I found a running TII for $1000. The owner stated that he had a few overheating problems, but said that it ran fine. I went to see it, took it for a test drive and it ran fine as far as I could tell. So I paid the $1000 for it and tried to take it home. 20 minutes into the drive I'm overheating. I came to find out it was a blown coolant seal. I really could care less...I got a TII for a grand and now I'm rebuilding the engine. I knew this was a possibility when I bought the car though. When its done it'll be 100% worth it. How much did he pay for the car if you don't mind me asking? And also, did you give his money back?

-Joe
Old 12-13-04, 12:09 PM
  #21  
Carter 2.0

 
jhammons01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Irvine Ca.
Posts: 6,262
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 2 Posts
You sold the car. He bought the car. You are not a dealer. You did not sell him a NEW car with a 5 year 50k warrantee. If He wanted a warrantee he should have gone to a dealership that sold new cars with warrantees and spend a lot more. HIS problem is that he wanted to save some money so he bought a 15 year old car. But he expected new car security. This is called Champaigne taste on a lucky lager beer budget! A dealer would have gotten 25% more for your car than what you sold if for, and they would have tried to "sell" him a warranty

Remind him that buying a used car is a gamble. He should have taken the car to a mech to have it checked out.......what......he didn't want to spend the money???? Well another example of his cheapness dipping into your pocket.

Look , I am honest as well so I empthise with you, you feel bad cause you sold the car to him. What if you sold to another indiviual that did not know how to turn up the boost and wanted a car to drive thier grandmother to church on Sunday??? None of this would be happening. keep your hard earned money in your pocket. He bought a car he maintanes a car etc.

Here is the attitude you should quickly adopt

See ya, thanks for shoppin with us. Come back when your sister needs a clean ride! Have fun with your car.
Old 12-13-04, 12:27 PM
  #22  
von
Rotary Freak

 
von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: sandiego, ca
Posts: 2,941
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
As long as you drove him in the car and he agreed that it was fine "obviously if he bought it"
then the car is his problem after the bill of sale. If he brought it to court the judge would say the same thing.

Now there is a possiblily that he is telling the truth. You should NEVER assume he broke the car. I'm sure he did but never "assume" he did anything. Thats just bad ju ju. If your nice. You can tell him you dont owe him anything but you will be willing to pay a small amount to help him get it fixed. Thats what I would do if I wasnt totally hurting for money. But im just a nice guy like that.
Old 12-13-04, 12:40 PM
  #23  
Senior Member

 
johnrxt2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 670
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
blown engine

i have blown up two motors, one overheated and the other overboosted, both of them were my fault. If he bought the car it is his I would tell him to suck my ***** and get his ******* car away from me
Old 12-13-04, 01:16 PM
  #24  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
rsturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
So I guess i should just let him deal with it then?? Is this the consensus??


Milan
Old 12-13-04, 01:19 PM
  #25  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
rs_1101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: OC
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Kingofl337
Side note, Why is it the rear rotor always goes first?
i have a theory im going to make a thread on it.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...68#post3821568


Quick Reply: engine blown on highway??



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 PM.