engine being rebuilt.. get it ported?
07-28-04, 07:04 PM
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engine being rebuilt.. get it ported?
kevin landers @rotaryresurrection has my car down there rebuilding my engine.. kevin does porting for 200 dollars...
my questions are: should i have him do it? i could use this 200 bucks for a nice greddy water temp gauge and gauge pod. how bad does it decrease your gas mileage? is it worth the extra power when i have to use the car as my daily driver? it is a medium/small sized port so its nothing crazy..
do you all think its worth it?
my questions are: should i have him do it? i could use this 200 bucks for a nice greddy water temp gauge and gauge pod. how bad does it decrease your gas mileage? is it worth the extra power when i have to use the car as my daily driver? it is a medium/small sized port so its nothing crazy..
do you all think its worth it?
07-28-04, 10:20 PM
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my buddy has a TII motor in his RX-2 and its ported to the max, dowel pin'd and ALL, and he gets better gas mileage than the FC got off the showroom floor... its all in the ecu, get a standalone and you will get GREAT mileage.
07-28-04, 10:30 PM
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Well its less about "oh my port made an extra 20hp" and more about having the ability to make more horse than the stock ports. Getting the motor ported as you know just opens up the motor for better flow, so basically what deltron is saying is right. Get the porting done and be happy 
If you really really really want a temp gauge just get an autometer or vdo. Greddy gauges are nice and more than likely more accurate than autometer or vdo but for a temp gauge being off by a few degrees isnt really that big of a deal.
Cliffs notes: Yes port it
If you really really really want a temp gauge just get an autometer or vdo. Greddy gauges are nice and more than likely more accurate than autometer or vdo but for a temp gauge being off by a few degrees isnt really that big of a deal. Cliffs notes: Yes port it
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07-28-04, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
does a mild port affect gas mileage?
i dont wanna get 20mpg instead of 25mpg for years just for 20 hp. how often to i race or even ream on the car compared to average driving? not much
i dont wanna get 20mpg instead of 25mpg for years just for 20 hp. how often to i race or even ream on the car compared to average driving? not much
07-28-04, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
kevin landers @rotaryresurrection has my car down there rebuilding my engine.. kevin does porting for 200 dollars...
my questions are: should i have him do it? i could use this 200 bucks for a nice greddy water temp gauge and gauge pod. how bad does it decrease your gas mileage? is it worth the extra power when i have to use the car as my daily driver? it is a medium/small sized port so its nothing crazy..
do you all think its worth it?
my questions are: should i have him do it? i could use this 200 bucks for a nice greddy water temp gauge and gauge pod. how bad does it decrease your gas mileage? is it worth the extra power when i have to use the car as my daily driver? it is a medium/small sized port so its nothing crazy..
do you all think its worth it?
anyhow, you finally determmined the engine was bad? I guess i missed a thread on it. Whyd/when did you decide to rebuild?
07-29-04, 12:07 AM
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Seriously, it's not that big a deal. IF you dont think you want it, don't get it. Building stock port motors is cake for me anyway, I just assumed, knowing you, that you'd want the upgrade...90% of owners out there do. With a stock turbo and stock ecu, you'll mainly notice the powerband moves up about 1000rpm, I mean it really pulls like a bitch on top end. You should ride in my vert at 6-7psi, it'll feel like 10 on your old engine, and the vert is heavier. My vert is as fast as my FD running 10-11psi, and it weighs 250lb more.
Seriously, it's not that big a deal. IF you dont think you want it, don't get it. Building stock port motors is cake for me anyway, I just assumed, knowing you, that you'd want the upgrade...90% of owners out there do. With a stock turbo and stock ecu, you'll mainly notice the powerband moves up about 1000rpm, I mean it really pulls like a bitch on top end. You should ride in my vert at 6-7psi, it'll feel like 10 on your old engine, and the vert is heavier. My vert is as fast as my FD running 10-11psi, and it weighs 250lb more.
07-29-04, 12:22 AM
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Definately get it ported! Night and day difference even with a medium street port, and gas mileage doesn't change much if overlap isn't increased. All I did with my NA was later closing timing and slightly earlier exhaust opening, and it still gets 27-8 mpg @ 75 mph.
*edit* nice ports Kevin! That's how it's done boys.
*edit* nice ports Kevin! That's how it's done boys.
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07-29-04, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
It's calling you...<deep, echoing voice from another room> jacoob...jaaacooooob....
Seriously, it's not that big a deal. IF you dont think you want it, don't get it. Building stock port motors is cake for me anyway, I just assumed, knowing you, that you'd want the upgrade...90% of owners out there do. With a stock turbo and stock ecu, you'll mainly notice the powerband moves up about 1000rpm, I mean it really pulls like a bitch on top end. You should ride in my vert at 6-7psi, it'll feel like 10 on your old engine, and the vert is heavier. My vert is as fast as my FD running 10-11psi, and it weighs 250lb more.
Seriously, it's not that big a deal. IF you dont think you want it, don't get it. Building stock port motors is cake for me anyway, I just assumed, knowing you, that you'd want the upgrade...90% of owners out there do. With a stock turbo and stock ecu, you'll mainly notice the powerband moves up about 1000rpm, I mean it really pulls like a bitch on top end. You should ride in my vert at 6-7psi, it'll feel like 10 on your old engine, and the vert is heavier. My vert is as fast as my FD running 10-11psi, and it weighs 250lb more.
07-29-04, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
With a stock turbo and stock ecu, you'll mainly notice the powerband moves up about 1000rpm, I mean it really pulls like a bitch on top end. You should ride in my vert at 6-7psi, it'll feel like 10 on your old engine, and the vert is heavier. My vert is as fast as my FD running 10-11psi, and it weighs 250lb more.
my car on 10 lbs would roll up a stock FD, but your vert probably HOLDS BOOST TIL REDLINE so the topend is automatically better... my topend permanently sucks dick because i lose 5 lbs of boost by redline
07-29-04, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rxseven
In that case don't port it. You won't get even 20mpg with a decent sized port. On the other hand you would gain more than 20 hp with big ports on a turbo motor.
07-29-04, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by deltr0n`
you couldnt be more wrong if you wanted to.
07-29-04, 09:34 AM
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Port it man!
My engine just popped and i couldnt even imagine rebuilding it WITHOUT porting....thats just crazy talk
Seriously though, i think you should port it out nice and get the gauge in a month or two.
Believe me, if you want youre engine ported on later down the road you WILL regret not doing it.
And for anyone who knows about how much HP would an S4 Turbo get from a mild port?
My engine just popped and i couldnt even imagine rebuilding it WITHOUT porting....thats just crazy talk
Seriously though, i think you should port it out nice and get the gauge in a month or two.
Believe me, if you want youre engine ported on later down the road you WILL regret not doing it.
And for anyone who knows about how much HP would an S4 Turbo get from a mild port?
07-29-04, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rxseven
Really? How many ported turbo motors have you seen give 24mpg? Heck how many non-ported turbo cars are getting 24mpg?
07-29-04, 10:50 AM
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Turbocharged rotary getting 30-34 mpg? Umm..OK!. Jacob, do a search on fuel economy and see what the average mpg is for a ported and non-ported car. With the stock T2 ECU, best case scenario around 20mpg, less if ported depending on port timing.
07-29-04, 10:56 AM
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Porting differs from builder to builder, even in a streetport. Kevin's streetporting is relatively mild and there are really only advantages to a port like that. His streetport seems to really be on the intake side, while the exhaust is just smoothed out and pretty much stock. This means your emissions shouldn't really be effected, nor your gas mileage or idle. A bit more power via added flow and an extended powerband are nice benefits. I'd go for it if I were you and if you have your heart set on a water temp gauge, the autometer/VDO suggestion was a good one until you can afford the gauge you want. Or, go without for a bit and save up. What is easier to do later, port the engine or get the gauge?
Correct me if I'm wrong here Kevin
Correct me if I'm wrong here Kevin
07-29-04, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rxseven
Turbocharged rotary getting 30-34 mpg? Umm..OK!. Jacob, do a search on fuel economy and see what the average mpg is for a ported and non-ported car. With the stock T2 ECU, best case scenario around 20mpg, less if ported depending on port timing.