Im jobless and broke and my 88 non turbo needs a clutch. I have heard decent things about these ebay clutch kits from the 240sx community and wanted to know if anyone here has used them. Thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...Q5fAccessories

 

theres tooooonnnns of ebay clutch kit info out there

I currently have a 6 puck clutch from xtd in my car i like it have had it for awhile now and have kicked the crap out of it so far so good

 

Is it decently harsh?

 

I have an XTD 6 puck that they custom made for me which has been holding 600+whp for a couple of years now. I have been told lots of bad things about them on here, but my experience has only been good.

 

I had bought one of their 6 pucks a long time ago for a non-turbo, that I eventually turbo'd. It did a hell of a good job holding up to the non-turbo, but when the car was dialed in afterwards the pressure plate didn't have enough to keep up. It held up pretty well, all things considered and is still in the car (although it's a bit touchy as of late). I've not seen/heard of any horror storries, usually I drop in and leave decent feedback so long as you order the clutch for the application it's usually pretty good.

 

Exedy (Daikin) is also sold on eBay... It's similar to OE.

You can also score a higher quality unit from here on the used parts section.

I have an ACT HD pressure plate, sprung 4 puck disc, and Fidanza aluminum flywheel waiting to go in this spring.

 

Spend XTra and get NAME BRAND.

People DO have good luck with them but the pressure plates are OEM.

Yes, you heard right. OEM. They lie out the *** saying their clamping force is "whatever percent" higher than stock. When i want to UPGRADE my clutch, i dont want a stock level pressure plate advertised to hold any kind of serious power (250hp and up) that's for damn sure.

 

XTD is a scam.

Check this out.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43713

Or if you are one of those that can't read, here's the cliff notes.

I quote
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The XTD clutch was actually 100ft/lbs LESS then the other stock unit we tested. His Ebay auction clearly states the XTD pressure plate is "35% thicker heavy duty" spring in it. I measured the XTD and stock springs, they are exactly the same thickness. He is clearly lying, and fooling people into thinking the XTD clutch will handle 35% more, when in fact it is stock.
"

 

I still want to hear your opinion on how my clutch works so well. Is it magic? I'll give you a hint, it is NOT a stock pressure plate. It actually has dual diaphragms which is obvious from looking at it, and they are allegedly heat treated as well. In either case, it holds 600whp and has been for years, and I paid less than $300 for it. How is that a scam?

also when I did have their normal 'stage 3' or whatever, it worked fine for a highly modded 13b and a lightly modded 20B, it only started to slip after i broke the 450whp mark or so, which, funny thing, is somewhat more than what it was advertised to do.

 

And I wanna hear your opinion on my Stage 1 XTD that was 35% more clamping force then stock but in reality had less clamping force then stock because it slipped in 2nd gear on up.

One working unit is not proof. For everyone with 1 good experience with XTD there are 3 other people with bad ones.

 

If you're looking for an NA clutch just get a stock replacement from Exedy or whoever. I think Advance or Autozone may even have a cheaper one. As for eBay clutches I had a bad experience with an F1racing clutch but that was for an EVO 8. The spring on the pressure plate was loose and it made it impossible to install it. They did replace it under warranty. I run an Exedy clutch on my car now (TII trans) and it works great.

 

FROM EXPERIENCE:

My "stage 3 xtd" lasted about 5,500 miles.

I did not listen to anyone before i put it in.

I have had no issues with my ACT, but paid twice as much.

Save your 148.00 for the xtd and put it into a 300.00 ACT.

It beats putting 448.00 into that same ACT clutch in the long run.

Patman is the only person i have ever heard speak anything positive about this **** company.

john ny

 

I had one in my car a few years back. It never slipped during pulls, only on launches and hard shifts sometimes.

Still wasn't worth the hassle.

 

I have a centerforce stage one on my s4 n/a. Around 16k miles and does the job so far.

 

The thing is, im not looking to "upgrade", im not looking to make power out of my na 6port.. airfilter / full exhaust, no cats, lightened flywheel, egr blocked off.. maybe put in my 6port sleeve inserts in a while and play with the throttle body some.. not looking to make power, drift it, autocross it, or beat it down back roads everyday.. Just drive it....

 

Then get the Exedy OEM replacement from ebay.

Or the Centerforce OEM replacement.

Or another name brand OEM replacement.

Or get someones used clutch on the forum, that will certainly be an OEM replacement.

I think you can find clutches that are the same specs as OEM, I would look at those.

 

There is no point getting an upgraded clutch for an NA RX-7. Just go to the parts store and get an OEM/OEM equivalent clutch.

Any "upgrade" is just going to be a waste of money and anywhere from slightly to very much more annoying to drive.

 

I had a xtd stage 3 clutch on my 240sx, built NA KAE. hated the harsh drive, even after break in.

Beat the crap out of it and only started sliping at after about a year and half.

Was going to buy one for my 10th AE once i got it running, but after reading this thread i think ill just go with a more reputable brand.

good luck.

 

you never know what you're going to get with ebay. now days most **** is counterfeit. now from my experience: I've driven FDs with ACT clutches and did not like them. those clutches can take a lot of abuse from what I've seen. now I've tried ebay xtd and exedy. if I were to take pics of my last xtd six puck I'd **** on the disk before hand. it was that much of a POS. now exedy on the other hand... it's only made to handle stock, but takes a beating well beyond that. after many exedys from random sellers I would say IMO the best brand on ebay. when it comes down to it though I think getting a mazda T2 oem would be best, because out of all my jspecs it's their stock clutches that withheld the most abuse and kept coming back for more.

 

Exedy is not an 'ebay' clutch company. They are a high quality clutch company that happens to have people selling their stuff on ebay. I am willing to bet that 100% of the kits on ebay are either remanufactured or returned units that they then can't legally sell as new.

Which means its a great deal for a OEM replacement clutch.

 

Go with Centerforce or Exedy and call it a day. You need a regular clutch for your n/a. Not a hard decision here.

 

Yeh there's truth to that. last time i was on EBay i got a 86-92 NA clutch and flywheel kit from Fidanza because i was messed up my clutch and hydraulics couple days after i bought my car last year.

I take to an aamco shop and they told me the prob, so i figured i could fix it using mods and when it was time to install all that stuff from ebay i get a call from the mechanics saying that the disc and pressure plate didnt fit.

i ended up calling Mazdatrix for a OEM disc/plate and it made me feel stupid because two wks before i bought the car i had $4,000, spent two to get it i was about to be broke and my car was still broke down.

 

For a street driven mild setup, xtd/f1 isn't all that bad. Like i've said before.

You have stock ****, yeah, go for it. I wanted to hate on my friend andrew's clutch in his integra but he's had it for over a year and it's held up fine. He also doesn't drive super duper hard all the time either. Very conservative build/drive.


For the price and application though (stock 6 port) exedy is better.


Infernal drift machine, Fidanza flywheel didn't fit your no name clutch? Imagine that.

 

i had an xtd stage 3 in my TII for a long time never gave me any problems and its still in my friends car and going strong after alot of miles....i has to be able to hold more power than stock because mine was slipping bad so i bought a brand new oem clutch kit and it still slipped so i pulled the tranny one last time and put a xtd stage 3 in and had no problems...

 

I totally agree. F1Racing (grip force clutches) can't handle the power they claim. If you try and make a defective product claim; they'll tell you that you overheated your parts and so the setup will not be warrantied. I've seen alot of bad reviews on the web. ACT seems to be pretty good according to the web.....I'm sure everyone has different opinions on their clutch setups......