so i have seen more than a few times people get rid of the rear sway bar all together after using stiffer springs and shocks. the rear sway bar is almost usless anyways. and ive heard of the "drifter" guys removing the front sway bar because the wheels will hit it after they modify the hub for more angle.

so anyone here dropped both sway bars for a daily? i have both front and rear strut bars and stiffer springs and shocks (mainly a cosmetic thing truthfully). this is a dialy driver so im not worried about G's in the corners.

and if you dont know what you are talking about and are just going to type usless non-sence, dont bother posting. useful info on why or why not to only!

 

do it and feel for yourself if you like it..
i took my rear off completely this past week, and i have coilovers , dtss eliminators and mazdatrixs angle kit /tie rods in the front.

I was told about people taking the front off as well but nothing else..

You might get a better response in the drifting section
https://www.rx7club.com/drifting-226/
theres different guys that hang around that area that should have more knowledge.

 

This is really easy, and it is not just a drifting mod. There are many track dogs that run this way.

Remove one endlink from the rear sway bar and go drive it. If you like it, pull out the bar. If you don't like it, put the endlink back on.

It is supposed to take away some of the snap oversteer the car exibits. My personal experience is that the car will snap loose if you get off the gas mid corner. If you can modulate the throttle through the corner, you can use this characteristic to your advantage and get the car to rotate and it won't snap loose. The car does not seem to like any major throttle changes in the corner. I have noticed that it can push out a bit if you floor it off the corner. If you roll into the gas, the front will turn better and it is easier to hit your marks.

I believe those with full coilovers may see more benefit from removing the rear sway bar due to 2 reasons. 1 - The stiffer springs will controll the body well on their own. 2 - Coilovers have so little droop compared to stock shocks, the coilover damper will fully extend and keep the car's body from rolling further.

Reason number 2 would not apply to those with a GC coilover setup.

I would NOT remove the front bar.

All that said, I have not tried it yet. I will try it at the next track day in a couple weeks and provide some feedback and lap times.

 

I thought removing sway bars was for Jeeps?

What would the benefit be for the FC by removing either/both the front or rear sway bars?? Is it just something that is done in mad tyte drift circles or is there a benefit for street/grip driving?

 

Hell I have a Carroll Smith book that's over 20 years old that advocates taking the rear sway bar off race cars.

 

some good info here. i thought it would of been a lot more internet haters...

so i think i might just drop the front and rear and see how it feels like suggested. i dont have coil overs. just tanabe springs and gabriel shocks with some custom front and rear strut bars. like i said earlier also, this is not a track car. the upgrades are more towards a visual thing. this is my daily. i leave the real upgrades for purpose on my other TII.

 

don't be a tool.

removing the rear sway bar many people see an increase in rear grip, especially in the corners. of course this is only with a good full coilover setup, none of this spring/shock combo bs.

personal experience:
removing the rear I saw an increase in rear grip, allowing me to enter and exit corners faster, and the car seemed a lot less "twitchy" while maintaining a high level of control.

next I am going to remove the front.

 

i honestly havent done any spirited driving with it.. prior owner had it disabled on my car for drifting and i reattached it so i could learn how it feels. I recently pulled it back off for good. i figure it wont be soo skirmish/fishtail coming out of corners. Ive heard nothing but good things about pulling it. I just need to get off this welded diff and get a NA LSD and repack it.

http://www.ziptied.com/forums/index....2422#msg132422

 

On a spring shock combo, would there be benefit in running a stiffer front bar and removing the rear bar?

 

if you already have that stuff, try it. It all comes down to driver preference.

take off one of the wheels and unbolt the sway bar link = done. see if you like it.. then later remove the whole bar.

 

On a spring shock combo possibly, but you would have to try it. You may be contributing to an understeer condition by adding a stiffer front and no rear bar.

Try it with the rear bar unhooked, then see if you need more front bar to help maintain proper attitude, or dial out more front grip.

Before coilovers I ran Tokico blues, RB springs and RB sway bars F&R. There was no need to remove the rear bar.

 

i have some cusco coilovers for the front. but i dont have the rears. i got them with my front clip and i cant find just the rears. im also asking this now because i RHD swapped my FC and have almost everything together now. i have all the suspension basically in except the sway bar. so i was just going to leave it off for good. im pretty much decided on leaving it off now. no one here that has experienced having left it off, had any bad comments about it.

also, it saves some weight...wich is always good.

 

not trying to be a tool, seriously hadn't heard if this before. And it seems like this does apply to grip not just drift huh? I'm running Stance GR+ Coilovers so I might be interested in this once I learn some more about it.

 

Driving around in FL there is no way in hell you'd even feel the difference with or without one.

As a general rule, the side with more roll stiffness is going to give in (lose traction) first. So removing the rear will make it understeer and vise versa. The SCCA guys remove the rear sway to help with oversteer. I personally think the problem is lack of roll center correction in the front...but as far as this thread is concerned you will probably not notice it unless you push the car hard in the turns which is really hard in FL.

 

Then you won't mind if I edit the crap out of your post and remove the useless comments in this thread related to it.

Thread and post pruned

 

Removing the rear sway bar was a mod for less experienced drivers in drifting. Most Pros still use them it helps get the rear end loose. Removing the front one was just a half *** way of curing one problem by creating another.

 

one thing to look at also is local law. In Missouri you will not pass safety with out a front, rear is optional.