Drill TurboII rotors to 4x114.3?
01-09-10, 07:11 PM
#26
Rotary mind...
Honestly, I don't wish to continue discussing the subject. Specially not with a "poser".
Posers look pretty, drivers KNOW their cars, know how to drive them and how to work on them, which means more that bolting up what may fit, or not. Drivers feel the differences made between a flex line and a hard line, know what a proportioning valve does and how it works. They also know how to read (never did I write that the front brakes were modulated by the Proportioning Valve. It's clearly written that it modulates the rear brakes)...The proportioning valve limits the amount of braking provided by the rear axle...
You drive slow and are afraid of drivers that do more than you can (man usually fears what it can not understand).
You were not the person that I initially intended this reply for, so I will not continue discussing what I know is right with what you think is true.
Just a thought for anyone.
Car companies are always trying to reduce costs and avoid liability.
Not Mazda nor any other car company will incur in the expense of manufacturing a different part for a car, if it does the exact same thing as the parts already available for it. Mazda will not make 2 different Master Cylinders, to be inconsistent only. They will not offer 2 different Master Cylinders for the same car if they both do the same because it involves extra cost on many different levels.
There are 2 different MC but one is for cars equipped with ABS and one is for the rest of them.
Of course you would know this if you had microfiche parts list from Mazda like I do, and you could then understand that part of those numbers change from year to year for model year differentiation, but the actual part is the same.
clokker has failed to read and understand what I wrote. Has failed to understand as it can be read, that pressure at the pad, IS VERY IMPORTANT, since the pressure of the pad against the disc is what provides friction to stop the car. He probably does not not know the hydraulic pressure in the brake system normally sees 800 PSI and that it can reach upwards of 1200 PSI, and he fails to understand that a brake pad, made of metal, will flex if that much pressure is applied to 1 point in the middle of the pad instead of on 2, which will distribute the pressure evenly over the pad in question. If there are no advantages to the 4 piston brake setup in front and ventilated rotors on the rear (compared to solid on 4 lugs), why would the 5 lug cars with this setup brake better and shorter, despite being a lot heavier that cars with the basic setup?
The numbers are available for those willing to look them up, and tell the story. This brake setup is much better than the basic one. A lot of engineering went into designing these systems. No bozo took part in it (thankfully neither clokker or me had to do with it) but the truth is that the brake system is that. A System. designed as a whole. To mix and match parts is not smart. It is better to use all parts of the system as it was designed to work.
To avoid any stupid comments like: "why did Mazda used 5 lugs instead of 4 on their better braking car?" I'll say that the number of lugs used on a vehicle, has to do with the load that the wheel will carry and not how powerful the brakes are. The 5 lug cars as I said before, are much heavier.
...poser... JAJAJA.
Posers pose and drivers drive.
Guess which one can tell the differences that it said by someone here "no one can tell". Certainly not the guy that suffers tachycardia when driving a car fast.
Real drivers know that driving a car near its limits is fun, not frightening.
Posers use a rolled sock in their pants or a roll of quarters.
Any posers out there???
Posers look pretty, drivers KNOW their cars, know how to drive them and how to work on them, which means more that bolting up what may fit, or not. Drivers feel the differences made between a flex line and a hard line, know what a proportioning valve does and how it works. They also know how to read (never did I write that the front brakes were modulated by the Proportioning Valve. It's clearly written that it modulates the rear brakes)...The proportioning valve limits the amount of braking provided by the rear axle...
You drive slow and are afraid of drivers that do more than you can (man usually fears what it can not understand).
You were not the person that I initially intended this reply for, so I will not continue discussing what I know is right with what you think is true.
Just a thought for anyone.
Car companies are always trying to reduce costs and avoid liability.
Not Mazda nor any other car company will incur in the expense of manufacturing a different part for a car, if it does the exact same thing as the parts already available for it. Mazda will not make 2 different Master Cylinders, to be inconsistent only. They will not offer 2 different Master Cylinders for the same car if they both do the same because it involves extra cost on many different levels.
There are 2 different MC but one is for cars equipped with ABS and one is for the rest of them.
Of course you would know this if you had microfiche parts list from Mazda like I do, and you could then understand that part of those numbers change from year to year for model year differentiation, but the actual part is the same.
clokker has failed to read and understand what I wrote. Has failed to understand as it can be read, that pressure at the pad, IS VERY IMPORTANT, since the pressure of the pad against the disc is what provides friction to stop the car. He probably does not not know the hydraulic pressure in the brake system normally sees 800 PSI and that it can reach upwards of 1200 PSI, and he fails to understand that a brake pad, made of metal, will flex if that much pressure is applied to 1 point in the middle of the pad instead of on 2, which will distribute the pressure evenly over the pad in question. If there are no advantages to the 4 piston brake setup in front and ventilated rotors on the rear (compared to solid on 4 lugs), why would the 5 lug cars with this setup brake better and shorter, despite being a lot heavier that cars with the basic setup?
The numbers are available for those willing to look them up, and tell the story. This brake setup is much better than the basic one. A lot of engineering went into designing these systems. No bozo took part in it (thankfully neither clokker or me had to do with it) but the truth is that the brake system is that. A System. designed as a whole. To mix and match parts is not smart. It is better to use all parts of the system as it was designed to work.
To avoid any stupid comments like: "why did Mazda used 5 lugs instead of 4 on their better braking car?" I'll say that the number of lugs used on a vehicle, has to do with the load that the wheel will carry and not how powerful the brakes are. The 5 lug cars as I said before, are much heavier.
...poser... JAJAJA.
Posers pose and drivers drive.
Guess which one can tell the differences that it said by someone here "no one can tell". Certainly not the guy that suffers tachycardia when driving a car fast.
Real drivers know that driving a car near its limits is fun, not frightening.
Posers use a rolled sock in their pants or a roll of quarters.
Any posers out there???
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Sorry to bring this up from the past but I just want to clarify what I've read.
4 pot calibers will fit in the front, with the larger disc. where do you guys get your 4 bolt t2 discs from?
a brake booster, and prop valve is necessary? as well as SS lines?
Anything I'm missing here?
4 pot calibers will fit in the front, with the larger disc. where do you guys get your 4 bolt t2 discs from?
a brake booster, and prop valve is necessary? as well as SS lines?
Anything I'm missing here?
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