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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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drifting a 7

what all would i have to change on a turbo 2 if i wanted to drift it? would the lsd be a good thing or a bad thing?
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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IIRC, LSD's came on TII's stock

Some bald tires will help too.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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to go the cheapest route id have to say..all season tires in rear...and performance tires in front...
better brake pads
if you have the extra cash i would get a better LSD... i dont trust the one i have right now... so im planning on getting a Kaaz or Cusco 1.5way

if you already have the parts like coil overs, drop your ride a bit, and stiffen the suspension..
if you have struts/bars over your engine, take it off...this will make the front more "loose" and you can swerve a little better to enter/exit the turn.. bars in the rear help so that your car wont shake so much and will slide smoother...

*those are some of the ghetto tricks that ive been told
i plan to start drifting my seven, but yeah waiting to get the new LSD
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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the stock LSD should be fine. why don't you trust it?

you don't NEED anything to drift a TII. a completely stock one will work fine, as long as everything is in working condition. actually, its probably better to learn on the completely stock one, and then upgrade as you get better.

a lot of people say that buy DTSS eliminator bushings is necessary to drift, but they just make it easier to control. IMHO, it would be best to try and learn not using them, but if you find that it is impossible to control, then get them.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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i dunno why i dont fully trust my car yet haha ive only had my NA for a couple weeks..i have yet to max it out on the highway or do some hard steering/braking.... mainly because i need a rebuild ;/ and i think its might blow up haha ><

does an LSD get worse/worn over time? thats what i would think..and maybe an all new one would do wonders...
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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some ppl remove the power steerin, gives them more control over the steering
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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yea all moving parts would get worn over time, just some faster than others. if you take care of the lsd, good gear lube then it should last long enough. clutch type lsds will wear out faster than viscous or...damn i forgot the other one
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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Get a 1.5 or 2 way diff, stiff front sway bar. good tires not cheap *** ones, it gives better controlll of the car. Also a good set of coilovers, camberplates, and the rear steer removal things will make it SLIDE. And more power helps also.

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and torsen is the other!
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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stiff front sway bar. good tires not cheap *** ones, it gives better controlll of the car.
stiff front bar will make understeer and super grippy tires... well, not only do they cost a lot, if you don't have the power to keep them spinning, then it don't work so well. and its much harder to learn if the back doesn't slide out as easy. once you start to learn, THEN pu grippier tires on the back. as well as a bunch of other stuff.
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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thanks chris.

oh but he asked what would need to be done, and the anwser is nothing, just experience and practice. if u want it to be easier then do what everyone suggests
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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oh but he asked what would need to be done, and the anwser is nothing, just experience and practice.
yeah!! just like what I said!
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Im gonna stop giving answers to question when everyone already ******* knows whats going on. Why ******* bother

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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 11:43 PM
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best to practice in the rain in a parking lot...you will save tires, and youll get used to the car sliding when you brake and swerve
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Old Aug 21, 2003 | 11:51 PM
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Im gonna stop giving answers to question when everyone already ******* knows whats going on. Why ******* bother
great attitude
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Bigretardhead
you don't NEED anything to drift a TII. a completely stock one will work fine
"You can drive with you feet if you want to. But it doesn't make it a good ****** idea!" -Chris Rock
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by mightymouse0x
some ppl remove the power steerin, gives them more control over the steering
Some people remove their front sway bars too... doesnt mean they are right.

i.e. - leave your power steering in!
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Bigretardhead
super grippy tires... well, not only do they cost a lot, if you don't have the power to keep them spinning, then it don't work so well. and its much harder to learn if the back doesn't slide out as easy. once you start to learn, THEN pu grippier tires on the back. as well as a bunch of other stuff.
shitty tires out back can also get you killed. like counter spinning off the street cuz your back end snapped in too fast and you spun off the road.

im not saying to run drag radials or race tires, but a good tire in the back does give more control, and are more money, but in the end... better to learn on.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by mtl x7
best to practice in the rain in a parking lot...you will save tires, and youll get used to the car sliding when you brake and swerve
Make sure you either...

a) have permission
b) don't crach
c) don't get caught by the cops

being spotted drifting in a lot by cops can get you reckless driving, trespassing, and public endangerment (if people are around).

im not saying dont go practice, just don't get caught!
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by mtl x7
does an LSD get worse/worn over time? thats what i would think..and maybe an all new one would do wonders...
the 87-88 series 4 diffs are clutch type. better for drift. they will wear. running a good lsd fluid helps the discs lock up better. aftermarket clutch types (ats, kaaz, cusco, mazdaspeed) are also clutch type and will wear. they are all good drift diffs.

1 way is only lockup on acceleration
1.5 way is lockup on accel and partial decel
2 way is full lockup on accel and decel

i ran a ats deftforce 2 way metal diff in my fc. it is the most drift oriented diff on the market, for the car. it has 20 discs and more clamping pressure than an elephant sitting on your head. no throttle input in a turn would make the disc's pop and lock, it sounded like someone was hitting the diff with a sledgehammer.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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And how long did that diff last and where did you buy it?
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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to drift all u need to do is, drive really fast n turn u're wheel...trust me:-D thats all it'll take
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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doh double post...


hmmm


hi.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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seriously...what's with all this talk about mods?

Just learn to drive, and you'll be able to drift, it's not very difficult.

PS. I suggest practicing at your local Autocrosses.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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be careful at the autoX's though since some of the people that run them may really frown upon that sort of thing.
2way LSD all the way. i like Torsens though, like the one in an FD(perfect and cheap to swap into an S4). FDs and Miatas can drift w/ their torsen LSDs no sweat.

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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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I guess it depends on who you AutoX with. When I went with the Miata club of Mass, they certainly didn't mind.

I could see SCCA frowning upon that sort of thing, though.
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