I was wondering if there are any drifters in this forum. Just curious as to how the rx7 drifts. Im hoping to get an rx7 quite soon, looking forward to it.

 

I feel that the FC drifts quite well.. I have never had an real complaints with it as far as drifting goes. the only thing that i would recommend doing is to get some good suspension under the car, prefferably something that you can adjust the shock stiffness, it will help you setup the car to your driving style.

 

I really can't compare any other cars drifting abilities to the RX-7's since all my other cars were front-wheel drive and harder to drift. But I personally think the RX-7 drifts wonderfully. It drift MUCH better with with my Coilovers then it did with stock suspension. Right now my rear springs are too stiff for normal driving(375/325) so this gives my car a pretty heavy oversteer which is great for easy drifting. I can just go into a corner fast and turn in quick and the back end will just drift out naturally because of the stiff rear spring(in comparison to the front). If the back end doesn't kick out at the beginning of a turn its easy to just accelerate out of the corner and turn in more towards the apex and exit and once again the back-end will step out, but very controllably and gradually. I don't really drive around drifting all over the place though, I do enjoy powersliding through intersections and tight corners and such but thats much easier and safer than drifting through corners at speed.

 

if you want to drift using a 2nd gen...it is a must that you get the rear steer elims from RB. It is easier to step out the rear under acceleration.

 

I'm going to start trying once I replace my suspension and a few other things. uhh... in Gran Turismo 3 I'm good at it... I prefer it. hehe...

 

I can drift my 88 vert , but not nearly as easily as my GSL-SE. My GSL-SE is built just for drifting. I have done almost every mod available to help my drifts be more controllable and faster.

 

hhmm i've been trying to drift in my 1987 na.. but its sorta hard
no power steering, and no lsd...
can anyone gimme some help on how to get oversteer to start?
cuz i dont wanna do it the lame e-brake way

when i try i always get understeer for the most part... until at the veyr end when it turns into oversteer, and i can apply the gas.. but if i wanted to drift thru a turn.. i'd prolly be well into a mountainside (theoretically speaking) before the back started sliding out
any help would be appreciated
thanks in advance

 

Just buy some drift vids. there is always second gens in them. They are one of the best at it. Especial used in synchronized swing outs. Check this page out. go to the second gen vid section under drift videos. it should be about 2 minutes long but it is in japan, right hand drivers, it dark but I think they are tenth anniversary editions. I know they are T2's for sure. Any ways check it out they are 2 T'2s doing like a 100 mph through mountain roads drifting hard about 3-4 feet apart.

here is the direct link:
http://www.fc3s.com/downloads.htm

Click on 2nd gen drifting videos and I think there is only one to choos from then download it and enjoy!

CJG

 

Hey Rotortuner, there were NO 10th Anniversary edition 7's in Japan. Trust me on this one.
Now get back in that flaming truck of yours and scoot. j/k of course dude.

jerk_racer@hotmail.com

 

watch initial-D

 

Speedracer gave a good technique. You can drift with ANYTHING, it's just harder with some than others. PS is a hindrance, because you feel far less. Basically take a corner too hot turn in hard. The car should start to slide at this point. You also cause the car to slide by adding throttle in the corner. Be carefull drifting on public roads. Find somewhere with no one around and no/few trees and curbs.

The reason you want to drift is because it's the fastest way around a corner. Thus you need to think about what your car is doing and how you can change it. Next time you take a long sweeping corner notice what happens when you add and remove throttle.

The safest way to learn is to get a copy of Grand Prix Legends for your PC. You'll need a wheel/pedel combo or a decent joystick to play. It's not the newest game, but it's very good. This is hardcore, the real deal racing, not like most of the "sims" out there. Because it's based on '67 F1 there are no aero enhancements, it's just pure driving on rock hard tires. Nascar4 is a cakewalk compare to this. The power to weight ratio is huge so you really begin to understand how to drive. Warning: You will not be able to complete a reasonable lap for MANY MANY hours. Makes you a much better driver in the snow too.

 

Dude thats an R32 Skyline in front.

 

Watch it again. Thats What I thought too. But if you watch it you can see the piece of body just in back of the door window. Watch is a few times, It is very hard to tell but I think it's a T2 also I don't think they would put a skyline in a 2nd gen drift div. Mabe ???

Jerk: Ya sorry my mistake your right, they didn't make those in japan so I guess that would make it a non 10th but still a T2.

CJG

 

Well tell me what RX-7 has 4 round seperated taillights like that? None.

 

Yep, I agree about Grand Prix Legends. Thats seriously where I startted to understand the concept of drifiting. Before I thought stomping on the throttle around a 90degree corner and making the back end swing out was drifting. Not even close, thats just sliding, and its much easier to do than a drift. The difference between a powerslide and a drift is that a drift doesn't require throttle to get started, its just takes throttle steering once you get into a drift. A powerslide happens when most of your tires coeffecient of friction is being used in a lateral motion by your car turning. When most of this grip is being used and you apply throttle, it makes your tires sping very easily. When your tires spin the coeffecient of traction is is exceeded and you lose traction. Since your car is in the middle of a lateral motion your back -end will swing around since thats where traction is lost. A drift is just started by exceeding the coefficient of friction on all 4 tires at the same time by turning into a corner to fast. At that point very little steering input is required, you steer by throttle inputs. Applying more throttle will cause the car to drift out a little bit, and letting off the throttle will make the nose of the car turn in more. Although thats not always true. TOO much throttle will make the car start to slide instead of drift. In which case the back end of the car will start to slide out and the front-end will turn in more, and if your not careful the car will spin on you. Anyways, I could keep typing more about drifitng, but nobody is probalby still reading this.

 

uh the page isnt loading for me, but is taht the vid from inside the FC drifting in the mountains? if so, that IS an r32 upfront.. you can sooo tell

 

I read it, good explanation.

GPL is the most under-rated racing game that I'm aware of. What other racing sims have you played? I've never played any of the GT games for PS. My gut feeling about them is that they're closer to say Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed. In other words has many sim attributes, but compromises are made in the persuit of fun. I think Grand Prix 3 the most recent modern era racing game for the PC? We live in sad times. F1 Racing Sim was the last modern one I've played.

 

Sega GT is a fun game to try... but I know what you mean with Need for Speed... just kinda push the gas and ram your way through the level.

the local arcade had F355 Challenge (but got rid of it, the bastards)... first racing game with a clutch that I've ever seen.

But as far as drifting goes... I can't wait to get a FC... right now I've just been messing around in Hondas, and the only thing you can do is a e-brake slide. But you can drift in just about anything... but I wouldn't try it in a van, suv, or large pickup... lol

-Wedge

 

i played chuck yeager air combat up untill like 1998.. u all know what im talking about!

scott

 

How about GPL.

If you've played the newest NFS game, physics wise it's pretty decent. It's modeled with all 4 wheels.

 

In my opinion, I think the FCs are the best out of all the sevens to drift. Its small, light, and inexpensive. I tried drifting the FD but was always scared as hell to run into anything. With my FC T2, I go all out and don't worry about anything. But just make sure you get good suspension for your car otherwise, it could be hard as hell. I just emptied $1500 outta my savings for full suspension on my T2 and took out my power steering pump... now the car slides easily

 

GPL is the only racing game besides Nascar 4 that I have played that I consider a sim as opposed to just an arcade game. I'm not a Nascar fan, as I don't like ovals, so I GPL is the only sim game I play. GT1-3 is a great series. I have lots of fun playing them, but they aren't realistic by ANY means. NFS Porsche Unleashed is actually better than most games in terms of realism, and is by far the best NFS game. Viper Racing by Sierra was another great game with great physics, although not on par with GPL, and there was no aftermarket community for it, so the tracks and cars that came with the game are pretty much what you get. GP3 is pretty good, but its really hard to judge the realism in a F1 sim since the physics are so incredibly different than anything most of us have ever driven. For some reason GP3 just isn't believeable enough for me to play for more than once every couple of months for a few hours. A game called World Sports Cars is scheduled for realise Q3 of this year I think and it is supposedly going to blow away GPL in terms of realism, physics, graphics, and everything else. The game has already been delayed for a several years now. www.simracingnews.com has info on this game in case anybody is interested. Its being done by a 2 man team. One guy is doing ALL of the progamming and physics, and the other guy is doing all of the artwork. Its going to be published by Empire though.

 

Rotortuner: that is a R32 Skyline. I've got home movies that I made in Japan that you can compare it to if you care to do so.
You want to learn how to drift? Initial D? Video and computer games? You guys are seriously stupid if you believe that playing a game and watching a cartoon can help you learn how to slide a car. Sure, they adhere to actual techniques and physics, but honestly folks. Get out there and do it for real. No books, games, or videos can come close to actual practicing in the real world. They are fun to watch and play but they are just not real. Deal with it.

jerk_racer@hotmail.com

 

pictures, some videos w/ descriptions and some how-to's could probably only guide you at best. maybe help you perfect your skill a little.
just like swimming. "flap your arms and kick your legs" but it took me a while to actually learn to swim on my own, maybe thats just because I'm a little slow.

 

If you sure then I will accept that. It just looks like in the vid that the piece of body behind the passengers head is exactly teh same size and shape as an fc. as for accounting for the round tail lights. I think it is a kit or they are painted. Once again if your sure then I will take your word. Also I first thought it was an R34 but after I watched it like 50 times and confired with my friend who owns an FC we both aggreeded it was an FC.

CJG