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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Down Pipe Install

The top two bolts, anyone with experience want to chime in and save me a lot of frustration?

I am trying to put in my RB exhaust, and so far I have everything from the DP back off. I looked at it for a few minutes yesterday, then decided to look for a write up/diy thread for some time and patience saving tips to no avail. And yes, I have used search.

Are the top two DP bolts best accessed from the top or bottom? Any special tools? Are they bolts supposed to have a folding lock waster on them from factory, or is this from the previous owner?

(I don't think I can get an extension with a wobble head in there from underneath the car, but I could be wrong that's why I am asking.)

Does the heat shield have to come off? The two back side 10 mm bolts on mine seems to be stripped by the previous owner (turning but not coming out).


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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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You can get the top most one from the top of the engine bay. I do the others from the bottom with an extension. I cant remember if the shield needs to come off, I don't have mine anymore. The locking washers are pretty worthless because of the heat cycling, I double nut everything and use flat washers with loctite.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Are they bolts supposed to have a folding lock waster on them from factory
Yes.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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I've had the nuts back themselves off with time, so locking them in place somehow is a good idea. And yeah, tightening those top two can be a real bitch. Swivel ratchets help a lot.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Those tab alone on the washers that are folded up about 5mm alone look like a pita. I guess I will need to pick up some very long handled pliers to pull them down.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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i removed my downpipe so many times. i remove the top two bolts from the top of the engine bay and the last bolt from underneath the car. all i used was a 3 inch extension. no swivel socket.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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I just used a wrench... from the top
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Well when I get back ill it a whirl, seems hard to do with a ratcheting box head with the ac in the way.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Esp with that heat shield, I've turned those 10mm bolts enough to back them out 6 inches but I am not surprised. The guy who placed this motor dicked up probably 50% of every bolt and electrical connector he touched.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Just an update, if anyone cares.

The heat shield def has to be removed or moved. The two back bolts eventually came out with some added pressure from a flathead (not easy with big monkey hands) and well... the others ended up having to meet Mr. Pry Bar. Ghetto I know, but hey.

Next came the stubby flat head to bend back the tabs on the lock washers (for lack of a better name). And now I have the 2/3 of the DP bolts off.

The last bolt is blocked by the oxygen sensor, and yes I know the instructions state to remove it first. I assume it requires a 22mm oxygen sensor socket, which I don't have atm. Most local auto parts stores should have these right?

So I should be well on my way to blowing the motor, thanks
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Yes most autopart stores SHOULD have the o2 socket.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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or a 7/8" wrench
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AGreen
or a 7/8" wrench
or 22mm in metric lol
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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I had a hell of a time getting around that stupid heatshield. I left it off, and just ran fiberglass header wrap instead.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Yeah, I just picked one up:
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-8-eig...nch-97177.html

Gotta love Harbor Freight, well until what ever you bought brakes a day later. Actually I got a 1/2 drive wrench from them with a telescoping handle that has proven invaluable.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HoustonMS3
Yeah, I just picked one up:
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-8-eig...nch-97177.html

Gotta love Harbor Freight, well until what ever you bought brakes a day later. Actually I got a 1/2 drive wrench from them with a telescoping handle that has proven invaluable.
yea well, my $50 Mac tools O2 sensor socket lasted a whole 2 uses before it split at a seam and now i can't find one who stops nearby. screw expensive tools, harbor freight is 2 blocks away and won't complain when their chinese tools break after 2 uses, just make sure you break them within the first 30 days!

that socket looks as durable if not more than the expensive crap you'll find on the tool trucks and i didn't even get a reacharound after my wallet took it in the rear.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Don't even get me started on tool brands....

I've bought Snap-on, Mac, Matco, Cornwell, Craftsman, HF... etc. etc.

Even when I worked at a garage, I still preferred Craftsman tools over the big 3 brands. I caught so much **** for buying/using them, but I wasn't the one waiting a week for the tool truck to stop by, then another week when he didn't want to break open a complete set to replace my one broken wrench. Which seemed to happen quite alot. I could just drive down to the local Sears store and get it replaced no questions. Time without tools = time without pay. HF stuff has its place, but alot of the tools I buy (hand & power tools alike) has a surprisingly high threshold for abuse.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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i haven't bought a tool off the tool truck in several years, and that was only for stuff that are specialty tools that you can't buy generically. i'd rather spend $10 10 times(not really since even cheap tools have a warranty but being generous) and get 10 jobs done than spend $100, do 5 jobs and spend the rest of the time waiting.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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That last bolt is rounded some. I have soaked it with PB twice, bought a better 6 point 14mm socket, and will soon sacrifice a small woodlands creature at work to appease the car gods.

I really really really hope it comes off because I don't think there is room for an extractor or vice grips to work.
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