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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 02:38 PM
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Door Lock Rod Mechanisms

Hey guys I'm having trouble figuring out the last part of getting my doors to work.

Should the drivers side door locking mechanism match the passengers side? The passengers side has an actuator of some sort?

Currently if I try to connect the door lock rod to the mechanism, it comes in at a parallel angle where it should be coming in at a perpendicular if it was to connect at that area.

I'm guessing I'm missing some rod mechanism but I want to confirm as fsm doesnt have much detail on this.

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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Is it a convertible? S4 or S5?
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Is it a convertible? S4 or S5?
S4 Turbo II
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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Im not sure, only venturing a guess, but maybe only the passenger side has the actuator so that when the driver unlocks the door with the key (maybe 2 twists of the key like my camry) it automatically unlocks the passenger side?

Like I said, this is only a guess/thought..but seems logical.

I havent looked down inside my passenger door on my 90 GXL. I wonder if it has one. I'll check when I get home tonight. The door panel is already off anyway so it will be a quick look.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by xtremeskier97
Im not sure, only venturing a guess, but maybe only the passenger side has the actuator so that when the driver unlocks the door with the key (maybe 2 twists of the key like my camry) it automatically unlocks the passenger side?

Like I said, this is only a guess/thought..but seems logical.

I havent looked down inside my passenger door on my 90 GXL. I wonder if it has one. I'll check when I get home tonight. The door panel is already off anyway so it will be a quick look.
It's follower locks, so only the passenger side has an actuator. It unlocks/locks (supposed to anyway) when the driver door switch is used or the key on the outside.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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It's follower locks, so only the passenger side has an actuator. It unlocks/locks (supposed to anyway) when the driver door switch is used or the key on the outside.
Ah, so what I was suspecting, except that you dont have to turn the key twice?
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xtremeskier97
Ah, so what I was suspecting, except that you dont have to turn the key twice?
That is correct.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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That could be dangerous!

What if my wife was being followed in a parking lot and she unlocked HER door and the passenger side unlocked also for the stalker to get in?!?!

Can this feature be disabled?
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xtremeskier97
That could be dangerous!

What if my wife was being followed in a parking lot and she unlocked HER door and the passenger side unlocked also for the stalker to get in?!?!

Can this feature be disabled?
Yes...

Disconnect the passenger door lock actuator.

You can do a keyless entry system that has a "second unlock" wire and that will do driver priority and unlock the other door with a double tap.

For example, this unit has it and it is called "second status/rear defogger output and is a Blue White wire. This is a low current wire so you'll need relays to control door actuators. You can also use trunk pop for second unlock so that you dont accidentally double tap the unlock button and just use the trunk button for second unlock.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Maybe something is wrong with mine? Only follows lock, not unlock. 10ae.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 06:45 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys. The only thing I'm confused about now is how the lock rod is suppose to attach to the hole. I might be using the wrong rod or still missing some hardware but I will take a better picture tonight
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Thats still the passenger side I believe. If the driver side does not have an actuator then my locking rod should connect to the hole in the pictures below. It's my drivers side.

Anyone have pics of their drivers side door mechanisms?

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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by brapdashdbrap
Thats still the passenger side I believe. If the driver side does not have an actuator then my locking rod should connect to the hole in the pictures below. It's my drivers side.

Anyone have pics of their drivers side door mechanisms?





No, it doesn't attach there.

I attached my aftermarket actuator to the rod running from the inside door lock switch.

Aftermarket actuators come with a clamping system to attach it to the rods currently there.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwalker
No, it doesn't attach there.

I attached my aftermarket actuator to the rod running from the inside door lock switch.

Aftermarket actuators come with a clamping system to attach it to the rods currently there.
that is correct. coincedentally i have my panels off as im i was trying to replace my door handles. i have however have an actuator to my driver side locking rod and some pretty **** poor wiring from some hack job alarm system.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary_bünta
that is correct. coincedentally i have my panels off as im i was trying to replace my door handles. i have however have an actuator to my driver side locking rod and some pretty **** poor wiring from some hack job alarm system.
Pictures since I don't have my door panels off to show how it's supposed to be done?
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwalker
Pictures since I don't have my door panels off to show how it's supposed to be done?
sure.. ill take some best as can if i have enough light when i get outta work. if not tomorrow morning for sure.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:10 AM
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I'm not sure if this helps but here you go.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:29 AM
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Cant see anything rotary bunta, lol.

Winter storm today, so I am not taking my door panel off. Like I said, the easiest way to do an aftermarket actuator is to grab the door lock rod between the interior switch and the door handle. It's a very straight run which makes it easy and its right on the front of the door when the panel is removed. You also have plenty of space to mount the actuator solenoid to the door.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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No, it doesn't attach there.

I attached my aftermarket actuator to the rod running from the inside door lock switch.

Aftermarket actuators come with a clamping system to attach it to the rods currently there.
If it doesnt attach there, and if the drivers side doesnt have an actuator, where do I attach it? Am I missing hardware?

Hmm still confused
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