do you think it would it benefit at all to route TID like Cold air intake??
10-11-04, 11:37 PM
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do you think it would it benefit at all to route TID like Cold air intake??
Like say do a custom 3in TID and route it to where the washer fluid resoviour would be if i moved it ?? do you think it would be more beneficial than say making a cold air box to block the heat soak ?? has anyone tried this ?? if so what where your results??
PS i mean to put the filter inside the fender wall above the brake vent .
PS i mean to put the filter inside the fender wall above the brake vent .
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10-12-04, 03:01 AM
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Have you forgotten about the AFM?
Yes it will be more effective than most heat shields, since it's hard to make a heat shield that perfectly seals off the filter from the engine bay. There've been several threads on doing just this.
Yes it will be more effective than most heat shields, since it's hard to make a heat shield that perfectly seals off the filter from the engine bay. There've been several threads on doing just this.
10-12-04, 09:21 AM
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The basic rule: Colder (denser) intake (at the ports) gives more available power.
The caution: You must have the right fuel & spark to go with it.
The tricks to accomplish this are endless...
The big players: Intercoolers, nitrous, aquamist, etc.
The lesser players: CAI, TID mod, manifold porting etc.
The caution: You must have the right fuel & spark to go with it.
The tricks to accomplish this are endless...
The big players: Intercoolers, nitrous, aquamist, etc.
The lesser players: CAI, TID mod, manifold porting etc.
10-12-04, 10:29 AM
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Well.. That depends on your Intercooler.
If you have a good FMIC, doing a cold air TID is pretty much in vain. Under boost, the air is getting compressed by the turbo and heating up anyway. Its the Intercoolers Job to cool it back down.
Some may argue that when you are not on boost, that a TID will bring cooler air in and being that the air isn't getting compressed, it will help out. Well, on the highway and not under boost, my air temps after the intercooler are pretty much at or below the outside air temps even with the filter mounted right on the turbo.
I would think that the added restriction of a long TID, as compared to a filter right on the turbo, is going to decrease your turbo efficiency more than the cooler air will help.
NOW THEN.. there may be some merit in adding DUCTWORK to bring cool air to the filter and some shrouding around the filter to keep the hot air from the motor away from the filter. But you really want the turbo to be as unrestricted as possible.
Oh crap.... you still have the stock system don't ya.... Ummmmmm Well, the poihnts are still valid, you don't want the ilect duct to be any longer than it possibly has to be...
If you have a good FMIC, doing a cold air TID is pretty much in vain. Under boost, the air is getting compressed by the turbo and heating up anyway. Its the Intercoolers Job to cool it back down.
Some may argue that when you are not on boost, that a TID will bring cooler air in and being that the air isn't getting compressed, it will help out. Well, on the highway and not under boost, my air temps after the intercooler are pretty much at or below the outside air temps even with the filter mounted right on the turbo.
I would think that the added restriction of a long TID, as compared to a filter right on the turbo, is going to decrease your turbo efficiency more than the cooler air will help.
NOW THEN.. there may be some merit in adding DUCTWORK to bring cool air to the filter and some shrouding around the filter to keep the hot air from the motor away from the filter. But you really want the turbo to be as unrestricted as possible.
Oh crap.... you still have the stock system don't ya.... Ummmmmm Well, the poihnts are still valid, you don't want the ilect duct to be any longer than it possibly has to be...
10-12-04, 12:48 PM
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i have a filter im putting on the maf thats still hooked up to the stock TID. i will be soon doing a custom TID once i get a BOV so i dont have to run the boost back into the intake. thats why i asked ..
10-12-04, 12:57 PM
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Yeah I am going to do this just to see what happens here is a pic what I got so far. I don't think it will really yield that much hp if any at all because of the hole compressed air / friction / heat thing but hey worth a shot ( I was bored )
ps. I've got a front mounted intercooler so I'm not quite sure how I'm oging to fit this through the mess of tubing I"ve already got. I think for a stock intercooler this may help alot more than someone with a fmic.
ps. I've got a front mounted intercooler so I'm not quite sure how I'm oging to fit this through the mess of tubing I"ve already got. I think for a stock intercooler this may help alot more than someone with a fmic.
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10-12-04, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by theflatlander
why bother when the air goes into a hot turbo.
Make sense?
