Do you know a good engine vendor?
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Do you know a good engine vendor?
Well, Since I have decided to leave my stock TII unmolested I decided to go ***** to the wall on my s5 GTU insead, so I am looking to buy a swap, temptation leads me to Ebay and random JDM importers, I would like a good running swap but I understand they are hard to find, so I'd settle for at least a good core swap. Any how I have not read any recent discussion on the mater.
Who would you recommend I by a swap from, I understand these engines are a shot in the dark, but as long as the seller is honest I'd buy.
Here's a list on order of preference due to ease of swap.
S5 TII
S4 TII
Any FD swap
3 rotor
Who would you recommend I by a swap from, I understand these engines are a shot in the dark, but as long as the seller is honest I'd buy.
Here's a list on order of preference due to ease of swap.
S5 TII
S4 TII
Any FD swap
3 rotor
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any "jdm engine" is going to need a rebuild at this point. Find a decent core in the classifieds, and rebuild that. Importers sell boat anchors.
There is no "easy mode" with a turbo build. Get that notation out of your mind. Sorry if I cam off brash, but its truth and I am saving you money.
There is no "easy mode" with a turbo build. Get that notation out of your mind. Sorry if I cam off brash, but its truth and I am saving you money.
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These guys are local, and well known.
The built my engine a few years ago.
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The built my engine a few years ago.
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importers? none i would trust now, and not because i think importers are untrustworthy, i find that the rotary engines left for scavenging aren't trustworthy.
as i always say, sell the GTU and buy a TII. you will wind up even at the end and out less effort/headache if you find a good one.
as i always say, sell the GTU and buy a TII. you will wind up even at the end and out less effort/headache if you find a good one.
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importers? none i would trust now, and not because i think importers are untrustworthy, i find that the rotary engines left for scavenging aren't trustworthy.
as i always say, sell the GTU and buy a TII. you will wind up even at the end and out less effort/headache if you find a good one.
as i always say, sell the GTU and buy a TII. you will wind up even at the end and out less effort/headache if you find a good one.
I already have a Turbo II
The reason I am going through the hassle of doing a swap in my GTU is because the Turbo II is in excellent shape and after trying to install a downpipe I realized I couldn't let this one be modified.
This is where the GTU comes in play, since it's a perfect candidate for a all out build.
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any "jdm engine" is going to need a rebuild at this point. Find a decent core in the classifieds, and rebuild that. Importers sell boat anchors.
There is no "easy mode" with a turbo build. Get that notation out of your mind. Sorry if I cam off brash, but its truth and I am saving you money.
There is no "easy mode" with a turbo build. Get that notation out of your mind. Sorry if I cam off brash, but its truth and I am saving you money.
I would, however be more than happy with a good core. If any one has bought from some one that at least got a rebuildable block let me know.
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as i hinted at if you start with a turbo II from the money gained by selling the GTU you would be even with if you bought a transplant for the car and didn't even know if the engine was working or not, or any of the other thousand things bolted to it, without the labor and time involved with the swap, or the half done swap because it would in fact cost more to do a proper and complete drivetrain swap than buying just another turbo II.
if you're set on keeping the GTU for some reason just say so, it will make my life easier in not having to try and explain why it's not better. or maybe you like to spend money and turn wrenches to wind up in your original spot... i don't know.
i will also say that swaps are worth less than a 100% complete TII car is when done, because the swaps are never done 100%(not to mention the VIN will always say it is n/a, which may benefit you in cheaper insurance but nothing else). i have only done 1 COMPLETE swap and it took over 2 months of straight labor and i charged the customer $6k to do it.
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actually it's not.
as i hinted at if you start with a turbo II from the money gained by selling the GTU you would be even with if you bought a transplant for the car and didn't even know if the engine was working or not, or any of the other thousand things bolted to it, without the labor and time involved with the swap, or the half done swap because it would in fact cost more to do a proper and complete drivetrain swap than buying just another turbo II.
if you're set on keeping the GTU for some reason just say so, it will make my life easier in not having to try and explain why it's not better. or maybe you like to spend money and turn wrenches to wind up in your original spot... i don't know.
i will also say that swaps are worth less than a 100% complete TII car is when done, because the swaps are never done 100%(not to mention the VIN will always say it is n/a, which may benefit you in cheaper insurance but nothing else). i have only done 1 COMPLETE swap and it took over 2 months of straight labor and i charged the customer $6k to do it.
as i hinted at if you start with a turbo II from the money gained by selling the GTU you would be even with if you bought a transplant for the car and didn't even know if the engine was working or not, or any of the other thousand things bolted to it, without the labor and time involved with the swap, or the half done swap because it would in fact cost more to do a proper and complete drivetrain swap than buying just another turbo II.
if you're set on keeping the GTU for some reason just say so, it will make my life easier in not having to try and explain why it's not better. or maybe you like to spend money and turn wrenches to wind up in your original spot... i don't know.
i will also say that swaps are worth less than a 100% complete TII car is when done, because the swaps are never done 100%(not to mention the VIN will always say it is n/a, which may benefit you in cheaper insurance but nothing else). i have only done 1 COMPLETE swap and it took over 2 months of straight labor and i charged the customer $6k to do it.
The thing is, I have accrued a number of rotary parts over the years form cars I've bought and sold. I already have a FD torsen diff, a S4 LSD diff, TII drive shaft and hundreds of other must have stuff.
I also have plenty of tools, lift, jacks and even night access to the shop I work at.
With buying a TII car I would still rebuild, port and modify the engine anyways to accommodate the build plans.
I can't change the fact that it's a N/A chassis and the resale value will never match the one of a true TII, but my plans for the s5 GTU is to have as a fun to drive car, that I'm not afraid to push hard and beyond it's limits.
Owning and driving my other car, the TII is somewhat of a bitter sweet feeling. The car was so well taken care of by the previous owner that the though of damaging anything in a rare car like this causes some stress haha
RotaryEvolution, nothing changes the fact the buying a TII car will be better and easier. But I'm not after easy, just better >
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I got a good jspec s5 engine from JDM engine world.
cost me 1600 otd and it runs great.
You never know what ur gonna get tho.
I had them Send me a video of a compression check before I went through with it
cost me 1600 otd and it runs great.
You never know what ur gonna get tho.
I had them Send me a video of a compression check before I went through with it
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Just my opinion which is sort of off topic:
Honestly I'd sell the GTU and the extra parts you have and mod the turbo II the way you want (unless the car is sub 15-20k miles in which is a little different) and enjoy it. What you're doing sounds like you want to have a sex with a mistress so you can save your wife for another dude. You'll be dead before that car is becomes worth any real money. Not to mention it's a better starting point for a build than a NA car.
Honestly I'd sell the GTU and the extra parts you have and mod the turbo II the way you want (unless the car is sub 15-20k miles in which is a little different) and enjoy it. What you're doing sounds like you want to have a sex with a mistress so you can save your wife for another dude. You'll be dead before that car is becomes worth any real money. Not to mention it's a better starting point for a build than a NA car.
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Just my opinion which is sort of off topic:
Honestly I'd sell the GTU and the extra parts you have and mod the turbo II the way you want (unless the car is sub 15-20k miles in which is a little different) and enjoy it. What you're doing sounds like you want to have a sex with a mistress so you can save your wife for another dude. You'll be dead before that car is becomes worth any real money. Not to mention it's a better starting point for a build than a NA car.
Honestly I'd sell the GTU and the extra parts you have and mod the turbo II the way you want (unless the car is sub 15-20k miles in which is a little different) and enjoy it. What you're doing sounds like you want to have a sex with a mistress so you can save your wife for another dude. You'll be dead before that car is becomes worth any real money. Not to mention it's a better starting point for a build than a NA car.
Call me a rotary hoarder if you wish, but I just can't sell my cars hahaha, I am however strongly considering buying a clean s4
It's not that I'm terribly concerned with resale value as much as I am with keeping it clean, but you do make a very very valid point.
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I know man I'm right there with ya! I'm attached to my vehicles. I once bought a car and it just sat in the garage the first 2 years I had it. I rarely drove it because I wanted to preserve it. Then I came to the realization that life is short and I should enjoy what I have and shouldn't own anything that I wouldn't use, not to mention preserve something that I owned for the sake of someone else down the road. I now daily drive that car (except when it snows).
I say do what you want and keep it clean. Be picky how you do it. My vision with my cars is to improve them and make them appear as if they were a special model that came from the factory.
Good luck either way! Neither option you choose is wrong. One just makes the build up process faster and less hassle than the other
I say do what you want and keep it clean. Be picky how you do it. My vision with my cars is to improve them and make them appear as if they were a special model that came from the factory.
Good luck either way! Neither option you choose is wrong. One just makes the build up process faster and less hassle than the other
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I know man I'm right there with ya! I'm attached to my vehicles. I once bought a car and it just sat in the garage the first 2 years I had it. I rarely drove it because I wanted to preserve it. Then I came to the realization that life is short and I should enjoy what I have and shouldn't own anything that I wouldn't use, not to mention preserve something that I owned for the sake of someone else down the road. I now daily drive that car (except when it snows).
I say do what you want and keep it clean. Be picky how you do it. My vision with my cars is to improve them and make them appear as if they were a special model that came from the factory.
Good luck either way! Neither option you choose is wrong. One just makes the build up process faster and less hassle than the other
I say do what you want and keep it clean. Be picky how you do it. My vision with my cars is to improve them and make them appear as if they were a special model that came from the factory.
Good luck either way! Neither option you choose is wrong. One just makes the build up process faster and less hassle than the other
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If you want a good quality Engine or a good quality rebuild kit go to Atkinsrotary.com I did all of my engine related purchasing from them in Washington before I relocated to Arizona. They are fantastic IMO
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