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Old 01-23-14, 12:28 AM
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Well, Since I have decided to leave my stock TII unmolested I decided to go ***** to the wall on my s5 GTU insead, so I am looking to buy a swap, temptation leads me to Ebay and random JDM importers, I would like a good running swap but I understand they are hard to find, so I'd settle for at least a good core swap. Any how I have not read any recent discussion on the mater.

Who would you recommend I by a swap from, I understand these engines are a shot in the dark, but as long as the seller is honest I'd buy.

Here's a list on order of preference due to ease of swap.

S5 TII
S4 TII
Any FD swap
3 rotor
Old 01-23-14, 08:30 AM
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any "jdm engine" is going to need a rebuild at this point. Find a decent core in the classifieds, and rebuild that. Importers sell boat anchors.

There is no "easy mode" with a turbo build. Get that notation out of your mind. Sorry if I cam off brash, but its truth and I am saving you money.
Old 01-23-14, 08:31 AM
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These guys are local, and well known.

The built my engine a few years ago.

Rotary Performance | Yes, it’s fast.
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importers? none i would trust now, and not because i think importers are untrustworthy, i find that the rotary engines left for scavenging aren't trustworthy.

as i always say, sell the GTU and buy a TII. you will wind up even at the end and out less effort/headache if you find a good one.
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Originally Posted by rxmiles
I understand these engines are a shot in the dark, but as long as the seller is honest I'd buy.
these two statements have nothing to do with each other. these engines are a shot in the dark, and it doesn't matter if he seller is honest or not!
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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
importers? none i would trust now, and not because i think importers are untrustworthy, i find that the rotary engines left for scavenging aren't trustworthy.

as i always say, sell the GTU and buy a TII. you will wind up even at the end and out less effort/headache if you find a good one.

I already have a Turbo II
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The reason I am going through the hassle of doing a swap in my GTU is because the Turbo II is in excellent shape and after trying to install a downpipe I realized I couldn't let this one be modified.

This is where the GTU comes in play, since it's a perfect candidate for a all out build.
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Originally Posted by archaphil
any "jdm engine" is going to need a rebuild at this point. Find a decent core in the classifieds, and rebuild that. Importers sell boat anchors.

There is no "easy mode" with a turbo build. Get that notation out of your mind. Sorry if I cam off brash, but its truth and I am saving you money.
I don't mind ding a rebuild at all, I understand that theses engines have been sitting for decades in these warehouses and with any look they where not part of the flood.


I would, however be more than happy with a good core. If any one has bought from some one that at least got a rebuildable block let me know.
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Originally Posted by rxmiles
This is where the GTU comes in play, since it's a perfect candidate for a all out build.
actually it's not.

as i hinted at if you start with a turbo II from the money gained by selling the GTU you would be even with if you bought a transplant for the car and didn't even know if the engine was working or not, or any of the other thousand things bolted to it, without the labor and time involved with the swap, or the half done swap because it would in fact cost more to do a proper and complete drivetrain swap than buying just another turbo II.

if you're set on keeping the GTU for some reason just say so, it will make my life easier in not having to try and explain why it's not better. or maybe you like to spend money and turn wrenches to wind up in your original spot... i don't know.

i will also say that swaps are worth less than a 100% complete TII car is when done, because the swaps are never done 100%(not to mention the VIN will always say it is n/a, which may benefit you in cheaper insurance but nothing else). i have only done 1 COMPLETE swap and it took over 2 months of straight labor and i charged the customer $6k to do it.

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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
actually it's not.

as i hinted at if you start with a turbo II from the money gained by selling the GTU you would be even with if you bought a transplant for the car and didn't even know if the engine was working or not, or any of the other thousand things bolted to it, without the labor and time involved with the swap, or the half done swap because it would in fact cost more to do a proper and complete drivetrain swap than buying just another turbo II.

if you're set on keeping the GTU for some reason just say so, it will make my life easier in not having to try and explain why it's not better. or maybe you like to spend money and turn wrenches to wind up in your original spot... i don't know.

i will also say that swaps are worth less than a 100% complete TII car is when done, because the swaps are never done 100%(not to mention the VIN will always say it is n/a, which may benefit you in cheaper insurance but nothing else). i have only done 1 COMPLETE swap and it took over 2 months of straight labor and i charged the customer $6k to do it.
I completely understand where you're coming from, and trust me when I say that I agree 100% with what you're saying. The thing is, finding a s5 Turbo II in at least decent shape is nearly impossible to do now a days. I spend at least two hours a day looking through classifieds for a Tii and the one or two that I have found are in deplorable shape not to mention the owners believe they're sitting in a pile of gold.
The thing is, I have accrued a number of rotary parts over the years form cars I've bought and sold. I already have a FD torsen diff, a S4 LSD diff, TII drive shaft and hundreds of other must have stuff.
I also have plenty of tools, lift, jacks and even night access to the shop I work at.

With buying a TII car I would still rebuild, port and modify the engine anyways to accommodate the build plans.

I can't change the fact that it's a N/A chassis and the resale value will never match the one of a true TII, but my plans for the s5 GTU is to have as a fun to drive car, that I'm not afraid to push hard and beyond it's limits.
Owning and driving my other car, the TII is somewhat of a bitter sweet feeling. The car was so well taken care of by the previous owner that the though of damaging anything in a rare car like this causes some stress haha

RotaryEvolution, nothing changes the fact the buying a TII car will be better and easier. But I'm not after easy, just better >
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I got a good jspec s5 engine from JDM engine world.

cost me 1600 otd and it runs great.

You never know what ur gonna get tho.

I had them Send me a video of a compression check before I went through with it
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Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
I got a good jspec s5 engine from JDM engine world.

cost me 1600 otd and it runs great.

You never know what ur gonna get tho.

I had them Send me a video of a compression check before I went through with it
^This. I will check them out, I am not expecting a running engine but as long as someone had a positive experience from a responsible business.
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Just my opinion which is sort of off topic:

Honestly I'd sell the GTU and the extra parts you have and mod the turbo II the way you want (unless the car is sub 15-20k miles in which is a little different) and enjoy it. What you're doing sounds like you want to have a sex with a mistress so you can save your wife for another dude. You'll be dead before that car is becomes worth any real money. Not to mention it's a better starting point for a build than a NA car.
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Originally Posted by bluemp301
Just my opinion which is sort of off topic:

Honestly I'd sell the GTU and the extra parts you have and mod the turbo II the way you want (unless the car is sub 15-20k miles in which is a little different) and enjoy it. What you're doing sounds like you want to have a sex with a mistress so you can save your wife for another dude. You'll be dead before that car is becomes worth any real money. Not to mention it's a better starting point for a build than a NA car.


Call me a rotary hoarder if you wish, but I just can't sell my cars hahaha, I am however strongly considering buying a clean s4

It's not that I'm terribly concerned with resale value as much as I am with keeping it clean, but you do make a very very valid point.

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Old 01-23-14, 10:55 PM
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Have you considered doing a n/a build? You already have a TII. You could build a quick n/a to keep it company.
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I know man I'm right there with ya! I'm attached to my vehicles. I once bought a car and it just sat in the garage the first 2 years I had it. I rarely drove it because I wanted to preserve it. Then I came to the realization that life is short and I should enjoy what I have and shouldn't own anything that I wouldn't use, not to mention preserve something that I owned for the sake of someone else down the road. I now daily drive that car (except when it snows).

I say do what you want and keep it clean. Be picky how you do it. My vision with my cars is to improve them and make them appear as if they were a special model that came from the factory.

Good luck either way! Neither option you choose is wrong. One just makes the build up process faster and less hassle than the other
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Originally Posted by bluemp301
I know man I'm right there with ya! I'm attached to my vehicles. I once bought a car and it just sat in the garage the first 2 years I had it. I rarely drove it because I wanted to preserve it. Then I came to the realization that life is short and I should enjoy what I have and shouldn't own anything that I wouldn't use, not to mention preserve something that I owned for the sake of someone else down the road. I now daily drive that car (except when it snows).

I say do what you want and keep it clean. Be picky how you do it. My vision with my cars is to improve them and make them appear as if they were a special model that came from the factory.

Good luck either way! Neither option you choose is wrong. One just makes the build up process faster and less hassle than the other
Don't get me wrong, I love driving them and I drive them as much as I can, but gas isn't cheap so I usually reserve them for weekend driving.
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If you want a good quality Engine or a good quality rebuild kit go to Atkinsrotary.com I did all of my engine related purchasing from them in Washington before I relocated to Arizona. They are fantastic IMO
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