projekt

what do the S5 n/a guys have to look forward to for an LSD? can we get a torsen from somewhere?

ra ra rotory

i just bought a clutch type from a s4 gxl for my s5 gxl... im having some guy add some shims or something... it should be pretty badass.... alot better than the stock s5 one... grr. but anyway.. you can buy ones from certian places. but i got the s4 one for 50 bucks

Cory Simpson

You can get a TORSEN from mazdatrix ($800 bucks, ouuuchh), or you can get a TORSEN diffy out a a mazda miata (still like $600-$700 bucks used owweee)

projekt

do you need to mod the miata piece? which miatas though? 1.6s or 1.8s?

vectorminds

sorry for the noobish question... but ive never driven a car with an lsd... how much of a difference is there... aka is it worth dropping 800 bills for one (less if used, but still expensive)

ra ra rotory

I wouldent think so........ I just wana be able to light up both tires.. and 50 bucks is worth it to me.....

bingoboy

no real difference for a Fair weather daily driver around town. not worth the money unless you're going to go racing.

projekt

it rains a lot here.....

bingoboy

wel for putt putting around town here is what i have noticed:

ground all wet and slippery. No LSD...one wheel spin out occasionally. LSD...more likely to fishtail.

shrug...my car has no LSD, and personally, I wouldn't look into getting one unless i decided to start going to the track regularly. if you really wanna build up your car then get an LSD. if you just wanna get a bit more performance out of it i'd spend the money on other things like intake/exhaust and some suspension goodies. what do you plan to do with the car?

ra ra rotory

or get one out of an older car... for 50 bucks.... haha... i would never spend about 800 dollers to put one in my car.... its just not that important to me.... it would be at the end of the 'to mod' list

SonicRaT

iTrader: (6)

Or you can get a deal like I did, and get it free

Rotary Dawg

I just got a Torsen installed in my vert. The difference is quite amazing...for one thing I like to drift, and with an open diff that's nearly impossible. Now with the LSD I can get the tail out so much easier than with an open diff.

I know I should've gotten a clutch type for dori dori, but I came across an unbelievably good deal for the torsen (+4.3 rear) that I couldn't refuse. So there, Torsen works too!

Also during touge you'll notice that there's a difference...exit speed is significantly improved, and no more inner tyre spinning out of a turn. The only problem is that with the LSD I noticed that I tend to plow a lot more than before while entering a corner - so I guess I will now have to adopt a slow in fast out approach.

All in all, get a LSD if you like to drive your car hard. However, if you don't plan on doing any "spirited driving", getting a LSD is quite pointless.

Cory Simpson

I hate you, I mean really anyone who gets free LSD and I don't I hate


Well I guess it is kinda OK becasue my car came fastory with a clutch type LSD, but it is half way worn out. So when you get on two majorly different traction grounds it is just like an open differintial. But on pavement both wheels still spin

Rxmfn7

iTrader: (4)

I can get a torsen diff out of a Miata at my junkyard for $25 . As soon as it stops raining Ill get right on it While we are on this subject, what all is involved in swapping LSDs? I am planning on putting the torsen into a GTUs rear end that I have. Is it just pulling the one out and dropping the new one in? Or should I need to take it to a shop and have it done?

Cory Simpson

I hate you I hate you I hate you ......


Are you sure it is a TORSEN, is the engine a 1.8 liter, with a 5 speed manual tranny. Does it have a leather steering wheel, or is the interior leather. And it also must be 94+

If it doesn't have those things it most likly isn't a TORSEN. I went on the miata forums (guys driving highschool girls cars hahaha...) and asked them whick ones had TORSEN, and that is what they said.

eljefe62

Yeah, what pitfalls and mistakes have been made that everyone should avoid when doing this swap?

Cory Simpson

I have been told that it is a straight forward bolt in, but I think that you may have to have the drive shaft either shortened or lengthened, but that is just a guess.

Rxmfn7

iTrader: (4)

Yep, its a torsen, 95, 1.8 5-speed. Also if you wanted to know I yanked the engine out of it (50k miles) and bought it for $150....and sold it on ebay for more than twice that..

Cory Simpson

Does that junk yard have anymore diffy's that are TORSEN for me??? If so I would be interested in buying it.

zinx

iTrader: (3)

i have an 87 base and i almost always get both wheels to spins dry and wet, launching at the track, going around corners fishtailing, but I'm pretty sure its not an LSD in the bast model, so why can i so all that?

Rxmfn7

iTrader: (4)

There is another 94+ 5-speed miata in the yard, but Im not sure if it has a LSD or not. Is there anyway I can tell for sure, before I go ripping it out, cuz it is a pain in the ***, and takes me the good part of a day.

Cory Simpson

Like I said it has to have the 1.8 liter engine, leather wrapped steering wheel (factory), and it can also have leather interior, but I am not positive if it has to have it, I will go back and check the miata forum, and see exactly what it must have.

Rxmfn7

iTrader: (4)

I was told that the ones with cruise control had LSD also, but am not sure how true that is..

Cory Simpson

Yeah, I think some one on the miata forum said that to.


OK for it to have TORSEN I will quote a web site on what it must have

1994:
A Package: (New) Torsen limited slip differential (manual transmission only), power-assisted steering, leather-wrapped steering wheel, power mirrors, aluminum alloy wheels and headrest speakers.

or

R Package (New Mid-year intro): Sport suspension with Bilstein shock absorbers, rear spoiler, front air dam, rear skirt, aluminum alloy wheels and Torsen limited-slip differential (not available with automatic or other option packages).


1995:
Popular Equipment Package: Power-assisted steering, leather-wrapped steering wheel, power mirrors, aluminum alloy wheels, Torsen limited-slip differential (manual transmission only), headrest speakers, cruise control, power windows and automatic power antenna.

or

R Package: Sport suspension with Bilstein shocks, rear spoiler, front air dam, rear skirt, aluminum alloy wheels and Tornsen limited-slip differential (not available with automatic, Montego Blue Mica paint or other option packages).

or

M Edition (Merlot Mica only):
This special Miata includes 15 inch BBS Wheels with P195/50R15 high-performance tires, tan vinyl convertible top, tan leather-trimmed low-back seats with Miata logo embroidered on seatbacks, air conditioning, power windows, mirrors and antenna, cruise control and leather wrapped steering wheel, compact disc player and four stereo speakers, anti-lock brake system, Torsen limited-slip differential, cut-pile carpeting, leather Nardi shift ****, M Edition exterior badges, doorsill plates and floor mats and M Edition gift set (key fob, lapel pin and badge). Other options include a removeable hardtop and 4-speed automatic transmission. Approximately 3,500 '95 M Editions were sold in the US.


1996:
Popular Equipment Package: (New) Rear Subframe bracerod (listed with this package because its use was discontinued as a standard feature), power-assisted steering, leather wrapped steering-wheel, power mirrors, aluminum alloy wheels with locks, Torsen limited-slip differential (requires manual transmission) , headrest speakers, cruise control, power windows and power antenna.

or

R Package (requires manual transmission): Sport suspension with Bilstein shock absorbers, rear spoiler, front air dam, rear skirt, alloy wheels with locks and Torsen limited slip differential and rear subframe bracerods (not available with automatic or other option packages).

or

M Edition (Starlight Mica only):
This special Miata includes Starlight Mica paint, 15 inch five-spoke alloy wheels, tan interior and tan vinyl top, remote keyless entry system with alarm, performance tires P195/50R15, Torsen limited-slip differential, Miata logo embroidered in blue on seatback, Nardi wood shift ****, wood parking brake handle, air conditioning, M edition door sill plates, Mazda Premium Sound System with CD player and headrest speakers, M edition logo on the tachometer, M edition floor mats and commemorative key chain, lapel pin and badge. Other options available are anti-lock brakes, a removeable hardtop and automatic transmission. This M edition was only produced for 4 months with a total production of 2,968.

1997:
Popular Equipment Package: Touring Package items, plus Torsen limited-slip (manual transmission only), rear subframe brace rods, headrest speakers, cruise control and power antenna.

or

R Package: Sport suspension with Bilstein shock absorbers, rear spoiler, front air dam, rear skirt, alloy wheels with locks, Torsen limited slip differential and rear subframe bracerod (not available with automatic, Montego Blue Mica or other option packages).

or

M Edition (Marina Green Mica only)
This special Miata includes Marina Green Mica paint,15 inch polished 6-spoke alloy wheels with P195/50r15 high performance tires, tan interior and tan vinyl top, Nardi wood shift ****, wood parking brake handle, air conditioning, Torsen limited-slip differntial Mazda Premium Sound System with CD player and headrest speakers, M Edition exterior badges, doorsill plates, floor mats and M Edition logo on seatbacks and tachometer. This car also comes with the M Edition gift set which includes a pen, key fob and lapel pin. Other options include a removeable hardtop, automatic transmission and anti-lock brakes. This M Edition was only produced for4 months with a total production of around 3,000 cars for the US.




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