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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Degreased the Engine Bay and now no A/F readings

Well i finally degreased the nastiness that was my engine bay today and now i have no A/F readings.. Is it possible i killed my O2 sensor?
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Probably not.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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well what could be the problem then? it was working fine before today...
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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did you check all the wiring connections? is it possible the wrie is grounding out on something now?
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Somehow water is in the connector. Pull it apart, blow it dry.

My guess is that you may have used a pressure washer? If so, don't do that. It forces water into everywhere it should not be.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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^^well it came back on today.. but now it reads REALLY lean.. As a matter of fact, today i noticed it acts just like it does when it is reading correctly, but on the opposite side of the meter..

Oh and i didnt pressure wash it btw.. but i did use a nozzle on the jet stream option.. should i still not do that?

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Its not possible i screwed up any of my injectors is it? I just need to know whether i should be worried or not. Is there a way to reset it?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Sounds like you just need to dry the engine completely. Pull each harness connector and check for water.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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^^well it came back on today.. but now it reads REALLY lean.. As a matter of fact, today i noticed it acts just like it does when it is reading correctly, but on the opposite side of the meter..

Oh and i didnt pressure wash it btw.. but i did use a nozzle on the jet stream option.. should i still not do that?
so you pressure washed it
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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^^ Um no.. i did not use a "Pressure Washer" therefore it is not pressure washing.. i used a setting on the hose that had a little more pressure than the rest. If it doesn't help the situation then why bother saying it?

my A/F readings are slowly becoming more stoich. I guess i can pull apart all the connectors but its been like 3 days now wouldn't the engine heat have done that job already?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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the jet setting on most nozzles is enough to force water into most elec connectors and some vapor could still be in the connectors which returns to liquid when it cools down keeping your problem around

couldn't hurt just go through one by one bound to find some water there
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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that sounds right.. but i shouldn't be worried right? Cuz i kinda have no choice but to drive the car. I mean the car doesn't feel like its running different and i can't find any reason other than the water screwing with the connectors as to why my A/F reading are off. So i guess i should be a little more careful next time i degrease? Cuz i need to do it again lol.

I hate to sound like a noob.. but where exactly are the connectors i should be looking for?

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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ok so i checked out all the connectors and they were mostly dry.. I am still getting readings that are off. I mean i understand water shorting it out and it not working.. but i don't see what could be throwing off the readings now that it's working again. What should my next step be?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Who made this afr gauge/unit?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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It's an Autometer.. I would say about 4 years old
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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So I am still having this problem with my A/F readings.. The pattern is just like the old pattern in relation to % throttle, but reading lean to stoich instead of stoich to rich.. any other suggestions? Fuel filter, injector problem maybe? would i feel a difference in how the car ran if it was really running that lean? I did accidentally leave a plastic bag over the air filter when i started it back up for a few seconds but then i remembered it was there because the car shut off.. Don't know if that could have screwed anything up but at this point i am clueless.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Today i drove the car and the readings richened up a bit.. for the first time since it started having problems it read like the first bar of rich under boost.. so confused lol
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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This **** is pissing me off.. I finally got back to almost normal readings.. and now they are back to stoich. Is the gauge on the fritz or are my injectors faltering?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Questions...

Is this a narrowband connected to the stock sensor or a wideband? If it's a narrowband, I'd guess something is wrong with the connection to the sensor wire.

Another thing is that many narrowband sensors "breath" through the wire. If you somehow got water in there, the sensor is junk.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Try reset your ecu. It may seem stupid but it worked for me a while back. Especially if the engine shut it's self off.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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It's a narrowband.. i would love to invest in a wideband. I guess i can try resetting the ECU if not i need a new sensor i guess. I just want to be sure those are not real readings cuz then i have a bigger problem
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lele73
Try reset your ecu. It may seem stupid but it worked for me a while back. Especially if the engine shut it's self off.
There is no way to "reset" the FC's ECU because there is nothing inside to be reset.

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It's a narrowband.. i would love to invest in a wideband. I guess i can try resetting the ECU if not i need a new sensor i guess. I just want to be sure those are not real readings cuz then i have a bigger problem
Sounds like a bad sensor.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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I have heard that an exhast tempurature gauge is actually a better investment than a narrowband.. Is this a valid point?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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It depends on what you are using it for.

If you intend to tune the car, then a wideband, EGT or both is the best choice.

But with a narrowband and an EGT you can get a good tune. The trick is that you have to know how to read an EGT probe.
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