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Could use some help from a certain mod... (vert problem)

Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Then that points to either a bad motor or a pinched wire.

If you meter the Grn/Wht does it rest at a perfect ground or does it have a couple of ohms of resistance?
Okay Ice, I think you might be a bit befuddled here...

Black/white is 12 V

Green/white is close

Red/white is open

(this is a vert SANS airbag)

Is there a way to manally raise this thing?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Is there a way to manally raise this thing?
Yeah, just pull
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Serious?

And where is the E-brake switch, by the e-brake?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Serious?
Yep... its just very heavy, as the roll bar is about 100 lbs

And where is the E-brake switch, by the e-brake?
Yep, remove the cover to the E-brake and you will see it.

And are you sure about those wires???

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Yeah, as I read that, B/Y is your 12V feed.

R/W is open,

G/W is close.

Black is ground, and the light green is warning... Unless I am reading it all wrong.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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IceMark im just wondering why you say you stay away from S5's at all cost, just curious.

OP, when i first bought my s5 vert the motors were shot so I disconnected the main lift arms, and just lifted it up and down whenever i needed to, wasn't bad at all, but with new motors its just so neat to have it go up and down on its own.

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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I pulled up the carpet around the E-brake and found a sensor. If i Messed with it in made the brake light on the dash flicker. Same sensor?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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So me and the wife just went and pulled on it with everything we had.. It wont budge.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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I pulled up the carpet around the E-brake and found a sensor. If i Messed with it in made the brake light on the dash flicker. Same sensor?
Yep, the top won't close unless the light is on.

Ground the wire at the sensor, it sounds like your top should work after that
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Oh, the light is on, top still wont work. LIke i said, we just cranked on it with everything we had.. It wont budge from the downzors position.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Oh, the light is on, top still wont work. LIke i said, we just cranked on it with everything we had.. It wont budge from the downzors position.
Even from the diagnostic plug? Do you hear it beeping? trying to close???
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Even from the Diag plug. No beeping, nothing. It doesnt even load down the system.

If I can get to the LH motor maybe I can make sure the 12 V is coming down the G/W line?

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Crap...

Judging from the looks of it I am screwz0red unless I can get that damn top up...
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Yeah, that would be my next step... going to the motors, disconnecting them and seeing if I can pop up the roof (maybe the one motor is trying to retract the roof and that is why it is so hard to pull it up).
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Yeah, that would be my next step... going to the motors, disconnecting them and seeing if I can pop up the roof (maybe the one motor is trying to retract the roof and that is why it is so hard to pull it up).
Well, here is where I am at..

I verified that if you move the switch to close, 12 V is applied to the G/W line at the left hand motor. So... Possible CPU problem? That would explain the intermittent nature of the problem up till now...

Is the CPU part of that LH motor? If so I will remove it, take it to work, and reflow the solder work.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Looks like the CPU is part of the RH motor. I give for the evening. Least I know the switch works!
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Looks like the CPU is part of the RH motor. I give for the evening. Least I know the switch works!
Yep, you next step will be checking at the motor
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
Yeah, just pull
You've missed out an important step, as explained in the owners manual.

http://www.cabrio7.org/rx7man1.html

J-Rat, click on "If the top cannot be raised using the switch" and follow the instructions.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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You've missed out an important step, as explained in the owners manual.

http://www.cabrio7.org/rx7man1.html

J-Rat, click on "If the top cannot be raised using the switch" and follow the instructions.
Whoops you are right... I guess I have already started to forget since I have not had a vert for 9 months now
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
You've missed out an important step, as explained in the owners manual.

http://www.cabrio7.org/rx7man1.html

J-Rat, click on "If the top cannot be raised using the switch" and follow the instructions.

Thank you!!!!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Sorry to hijack, but verts are equipped with roll bars?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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You've missed out an important step, as explained in the owners manual.

http://www.cabrio7.org/rx7man1.html

J-Rat, click on "If the top cannot be raised using the switch" and follow the instructions.
This may sound like a newb question, but if I perform that procedure, will I be able to relock the mechanisms at a later date?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Okay, top is up. When I go to the down position, the motors work (beeps and everything). When I go to the UP position, I get nothing..
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Bad limit switch, left hand motor!!!


HELLS YEAH!!!!

W00T!!!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Thanks for all the help everyone!!
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