Well I'm not sure if its a new idea, but you guys know I'm always coming up with crazy stuff to try on my car. Its too bad the air pump wouldn't move enough air to create boost. That sucked. Anyways. I was thinking of taking a heater core and some copper tubing and making like a radiator for the TMIC. It would be like the way you make a water cooling system for a computer. Hook a little cpu fan to the heater core and mount it in the air dam. I guess I'm gonna try wrapping the pipe around the IC piping and along the bottom of the IC itself. Do you guys think it'll help cool her down, for a more dense intake charge? Constructive criticism please. No flames please.
Charles

 

do you mean like a little water cooling system for the intercooler piping?? So what you want to do is have cool water run around the intercooler piping? i dont see a problem with that.

 

What about running refrigerant lines around the IC piping those things get friggin cold proly below freezing.

 

Maybe if you look around for a compact lightweight sistem you could do it. That would really cool the intake charge a lot. I would figure it would be pricey though

 

sounds good, but make sure you keep in mind adding this system could add additional strain to the electrical system(we already have enough trouble with the crappy alternators) and the additional weight of the entire system, and possibly it would take up valuable incoming air from the radiator, which may bring up the temp and defet the whole purpose anyway.

if it does cool down the temp lots than it would be advantageous, but make sure it makes enough power to make up for the weight

 

With what I was thinking was some refrigerant in the lines. I don't think it will really weigh all that much. Maybe 10 lbs. I'm really not sure where I would put it. I was thinking of taking out my fog lights and mounting the heater core in there. I know it'll definatly cool the lines and intercooler alot with the refrigerant. I'm just not sure how I would get the refrigerant to move through the lnes. This is what I really need help with.
Charles

 

bump

 

i dont know how you would get it to pump..... so here it goes again...... bumpity!!!

 

sounds like a good idea in theory, but dont know if it will work

a cpu fan wont flow enough air IMHO to cool the water, maby if you could mount it infront of the rad and hope the airflow there will help you

good idea, only the refrigearnt is only cold after being compressed, and even then, it just warms back up, you have to constently being compressed and then cooled and re-compressed, it would be like running AC all the time

 

What about using an electric compressor.

 

BDC does an air-to-water using the stock intercooler core. He welded a tank around it to hold coolant, with an inlet and an outlet. He hooked it up to a little electric water pump. He used a Honda Civic or some other small car (geo??) radiator. His flow goes from the intercooler to the (honda or geo) radiator inlet to the the radiator outlet to a tank behind the seat that he fills with ice water and back to the intercooler. I don't remember where the pump is, I THINK it is between the intercooler and small radiator.

It was good for 425 RWHP on the dyno, and he was running out of fuel so had to let off (needs bigger injectors) otherwise he would have made more- the 425 was at about 6000 RPM. Now, this is a heavily ported motor with a BIG freakin turbo and a Haltech to control it... but yes, it's doeable, and even works for high horsepower applications.

Brad

 

Ive heard of people actually using systems that spray liquid on the intercooler. As the air passes, the liquid evaporates and cools the intercooler and of course this cools the charge.

Jarrett

 

would have to be a big motor cus compressing the gas would take some power, then there, you loose power again

rx7_ragtop - sounds like a great idea.. but what kind of power did he make _without_ the air to water intercooling setup

that also sounds like a lot of weight

 

That is a variation discussed before.
It will not work.
Your A/C compressor can not keep up with the heat of the intercooler - AND -
The power consumed by the A/C is more than the power gain from the cooled intercooler.
This idea is only marginally better than using a air pump as a supercharger.

 

how bout this

sit some dry ice on top of your intercooler.

 

What a novel idea....How do you propose to secure said block of ice to the intercooler?

Plus cooling would be spotty at best. Not enough coverage of the intercooler. Better luck dumping some crushed ice on it......

Jarrett

 

WELLLLLL.....
stock TMIC has a seal that goes around it. just cut out a block to fit the whole IC. not little chunks of it. with dry ice on there, you wouldn't need the air flow through it.

EDIT: just out of curiosity, is your full name jarret rat? hence j-rat?

 

I have a freind that used dry ice like that. It only made him slower.
Charles

 

I just had an idea. You know how they use propane sometimes like a N2O fogger to cool the charge? Why not spray the compressed gas throught the hose and around the ic and piping, as well as a fogger for the ic?

 

Peacekeeper, do you live in Amli apartments over on Stonehollow next to ACC? Just wondering...

 

If your talking about the ACC on 290 no but your close. I live down 290 going towards Dripping springs. Off of circle drive.(Buddies Corner Store). Cloud, Are you on TRS as well? If so I'm peacekeeper on there too. I love Austin.
Charles

 

Yep

Jarrett

 

A variation on this has been used sucessfully for 1/4 mile racing.
I personally would not enjoy stopping 4 times a mile to service my "ice cooler".

 

Has anyone tried seeing about a top mount fan? I know guys do that on the all-trac celica. www.alltrac.com I think. They used a very thin aftermarket fan and then custom mounted it to the stock TMIC. Just a thought.

 

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