2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

Converting carbed 13b back to fuel injection need help!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:41 PM
  #1  
A.T.M.RacingX's Avatar
Thread Starter
X
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: miami
Converting carbed 13b back to fuel injection need help!!!

I have a 88 vert that came carb but had many problems with its setup so i decided that the best course of action would be to switch back to fuel injection so i bought an 89 hardtop for parts. Now the fuel injection system is complete all i need to know is how much trouble would it be to do the job...SOMEONE HELP!!!!
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:51 PM
  #2  
Rotaryhaven's Avatar
Total Rotary Domination!
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,916
Likes: 1
From: Hampton, Virginia
88 fuel injection and intake is different. So are the injectors. Unless you convert the whole thing over from the computer on back. I am not sure if you are using 2nd gen coils or regular coils so that is a factor also.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:55 PM
  #3  
Jager's Avatar
Tear you apart
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,891
Likes: 38
From: Bemidji Minnesota
It's actually not that hard if you have a doner like you do. The only problem is you're going to have to do alot to convert it over to an 89 EFI. I think you should actually get an s4 doner for the sheer fact that that the OMP, body wiring, and the such is going to be a pain in the ***.

It all depends on who you know and how much you know. GOod luck! I hope a smarter individual can come in and give you an actual tip.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2006 | 02:30 PM
  #4  
Aaron Cake's Avatar
Engine, Not Motor
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
You need to swap a bunch of stuff to make this work. S4 and S5 EFI is completely different. You will need to swap on the S5 front cover and metering oil pump as the S5 ECU will not run correctly without it (it will go into limp mode).

To make this as painless as possible, I suggest you totally seperate out the ECU harness from the rest of the car. Grab a copy of the wiring diagrams in either the Haynes or Factory Service Manual and then remove all the excess stuff from the S5 harness until you are left with an ECU harness that is "standalone". Set it up so that all you do is give it 12V and ground and plug it into the appropriate engine sensors. You will need to make your own ignition sub-harness.

If you had a S4 donor car, this would be much easier.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:12 PM
  #5  
rx7ryder's Avatar
CenFlaRxClub
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
From: orlando, Fl
yo im doing the same thing you are with my uncle except he has a hardtop 87 and were using a 91 vert for parts cause hee crashed the vert , yo im telling you this happened about in may 17 and wre still worknig on it and its a pain in the ***, good luck
Attached Thumbnails Converting carbed 13b back to fuel injection need help!!!-picture-024.jpg  

Last edited by rx7ryder; Jun 14, 2006 at 09:18 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:56 PM
  #6  
MPM's Avatar
MPM
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 445
Likes: 0
From: Alabama just east of B'ham
Use the factory intake and fuel injectors but make a new harnes like the megasquirt users do. Its pretty simple to keep the distributor(if you are running one with the carb) and add the basic megasquirt system for fuel control only. Try to sell parts off your donor car to pay for the computer if thats possible.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:58 PM
  #7  
WonkoTheSane's Avatar
Green Flameless
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,242
Likes: 0
From: North Central PA
Seriously, for the pain in the *** that this will be, why not just go megasquirted now?
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:23 PM
  #8  
ultrataco's Avatar
r o t a r y
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
From: Indiana
how hard would this be without a donor car? I'm looking at an 87 with a carburetor and might want to convert it back to fuel injection.

If I do, I would probably try to buy a very cheap s4 parts car and use it.

Is it worth it to convert back to stock fuel injection, or should I just keep the carb unless it gives me trouble? I know most people here don't recommend f.i. to carb conversions, but are carbs really that bad? Are they high maintainence or less reliable than fuel injection? I don't want to start another carb vs fi debate, i'm just curious. I don't know much, if anything about carburetors.

Last edited by ultrataco; Jun 28, 2006 at 09:39 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:43 PM
  #9  
ultrataco's Avatar
r o t a r y
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
From: Indiana
i guess i kind got off topic there, sorry
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 01:45 AM
  #10  
chaos7's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
which carb setup is on there? i had the weber sidedrafts on mine and i lovedem.
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:51 AM
  #11  
Aaron Cake's Avatar
Engine, Not Motor
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
With a doner car of the same series, it's a direct swapover....
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
Jul 1, 2023 04:40 PM
Rotospectre
New Member RX-7 Technical
3
Mar 28, 2018 03:33 PM
dkwasherexd
Single Turbo RX-7's
21
May 27, 2017 04:51 AM
alphawolff
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
17
Nov 17, 2015 05:57 PM
KAL797
Test Area 51
0
Aug 11, 2015 03:47 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:17 PM.