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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Complete Bushings Kit

Well, I just bought this. Anyone else put this in there car? I will let you all know how it feels when i get it all done.
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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how much was the total???? including shipping??
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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I put it on my car. Good mod.
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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how hard were they to install, do you remember which bushings it replaced exactly?
I ordered one along with my KYB AGX's, and was wondering how much of an undertaking it owuld be to do this in a day?
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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I actually used the a full kit from energy suspension. No I dont think you can do it in a day. The front is very easy to do but the rear you gatta basically totally take it apart. The kit replaces the A-arm bushings, sway bar bushings and some other small stuff.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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did you have a bearing press at your disposal?
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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yea

Yea, I think the total was 80 something. I also bought a new thermal sensor or something like that.... it was cheap and the engine is old... so i figured... why not? I do have access to a bearing press, so it shouldn't be too hard.

Glad to hear it works well.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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i have a set, im just gonna use a hammer, and some sockets.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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^^ that is awesome....
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RexRyder
i have a set, im just gonna use a hammer, and some sockets.
Good luck on that, I did my bushings that had 180K miles on the clock they were not going to come out easy. you can use the socket/bolt method but i dont recommend it. take all your stuff over to a friends house if they have a press. The best way i found to get some of the bushings out is with a gear puller oddly enough. The whole process for me took around 30 hours.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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Yea sockets will be pretty hard to use. The stock bushings are rubber so they will obsorb most of the impact. It might work, but id use some kind of press. I used a ball-joint press to press mine out. Also for the front A-arm bushings, you have to actually cut it off because the stock bushing has a metal inside which can only be cut off. Make sure you dont go too far and cut into the aluminum A-arm though.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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well im poor. H mount+Cosmo=$$
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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yeah I have this kit except I got the black ones with the graphite in it. It takes out some of the squeeking as per Energy. Anyways I have not put these on yet but my friend did to his s5 and he just used a torch to burn all the old rubber ones off.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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yeah I have this kit except I got the black ones with the graphite in it. It takes out some of the squeeking as per Energy. Anyways I have not put these on yet but my friend did to his s5 and he just used a torch to burn all the old rubber ones off.
I also have black ones, which are energy suspension. They sell both the red and the black.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
he just used a torch to burn all the old rubber ones off.
hmmm, a torch.....
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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thats what i did for the end links, but like I said there is a metal sleeve on the a-arms. You cant burn metal off and I wouldnt recommend tourching aluminum.
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hmm... well that sux... I was hopping that it Would take a couple of days to install AGX's New springs, and this bushing set. I guess one day I will do the front and then the next would be the rear.... hmmm.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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The front bushings are easy if you have a press and the right tool for it. At work we have this tool used to remove the hubs off of the knuckle, its basically a large two piece flat clamp. You basically put the clamp on the inside of the bushing and you tighten the clamp. then you put the clamp onto the press and you press the actual arm out of the bushing. I use to cut the bushing off but it took forever and sometimes i end up cutting into the arm.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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those bushings are polyurethane?

in suspension class today we went over bushings
my professor told us that polyurethane bushings will drastically decrease ride quality, and you will feel a lot more vibrations, and stuff like that
although they perform better than the OEM rubber ones, it's going to be a harsh ride, but the vehicle should handle better

i'm curious to see what you think about them, because i need to replace the bushings on my S4 and i'm kind of torn on which to use

also he said that if you have a car as a DD it wouldn't be a great idea, because of the decreased ride quality, but he also said that to improve handling go with polyurethane bushings on the sway bars and rubbers the rest of the way around...i'm thinking about doing this

keep us posted and have fun on the install
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Spot skater, yes they are polyurethane,
However the ride quality is of very little consequence to me, as I really like an awsome handling car, and thus if the ride quality is as horendus as everyone who hasn't tried (and a few who have) them tells me it is, then I will switch the bushings back to stock (new of course) that make the biggest difference and leaver the rest polyurathane.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jreynish
Spot skater, yes they are polyurethane,
However the ride quality is of very little consequence to me, as I really like an awsome handling car, and thus if the ride quality is as horendus as everyone who hasn't tried (and a few who have) them tells me it is, then I will switch the bushings back to stock (new of course) that make the biggest difference and leaver the rest polyurathane.
cool deal, go for it

just thought i'd share some information on what i've learned
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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I had started this thread a little while ago:

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/energy-suspension-vs-prothane-394154/

As I too am looking to replace my worn bushings. I asked people for their input on either this kit (Prothane) or the ES kit. As you can see, I got a lot of replies about the ES kit,but few about the prothane. For those of you with the prothane kits - please let me know what came in the kit (Bushings and what hardware?) as well as ease of install and overall ride/handling as well as noise and general impressions.

Thanks!
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