Coilovers for Daily Driving and Drifting
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Coilovers for Daily Driving and Drifting
So I'm looking into a coilover set for my FC. My FC is my only car so I have to drive it every day. But I plan on doing some drifting, not professionally or anything but some events that are held every few months at a track about and an hour from where I live. With this said, what set of coilovers would be able to handle the stress of drifting and being driven on everyday?
Also, I live in Pittsburgh so winter weather is a factor and once it's over I'll be getting a set of wheels sized at 17x8 with a +35mm offset.
Also, I live in Pittsburgh so winter weather is a factor and once it's over I'll be getting a set of wheels sized at 17x8 with a +35mm offset.
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Kei Office, Silk Road ahhh there's too many of them. Set it to the stiffest setting once you install them. That way you can tell who really appreciates quality suspension when people ride in your car. I know people who do this to their DD's and it's more of a dick magnet than a chick magnet.
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i hope you're joking. overdamped is bad. suspension take longer to settle than critical damping value. i.e not performing as well as it could be. and it rides like ***. just because the spring rates are high doesn't mean the ride should automatically be asstastic.
silkroads (8/7 kg/mm) last through inclement weather and hitting ****. i've been riding on my set for at least 1.5 - 2 years i think. driven through rain sleet and snow. but i do not like the shock adjustment. the ride is either bouncy (1-4 range) or harsh (5+). at 5 clicks i notice the front end still has an extra 'bounce' before settling, which pisses me off. but at 6 clicks the front end is stiff as ****. crosstalk on the adjuster? i wish i knew what that was before i bought them.
compared to my friend's nismo r-tunes (which is similarly springed at 8kg/mm 6kg/mm) my ride quality is complete ******* ***. i blame the shock. i'll be the first to admit i thought they were pure gold when i first installed them. at that time i had only experienced ksport and tein he. but after riding in other cars, i realize they suck. i would not buy them again.
i know they have a good reputation, which makes me wonder how bad some of these other coilovers could possibly be.
silkroads (8/7 kg/mm) last through inclement weather and hitting ****. i've been riding on my set for at least 1.5 - 2 years i think. driven through rain sleet and snow. but i do not like the shock adjustment. the ride is either bouncy (1-4 range) or harsh (5+). at 5 clicks i notice the front end still has an extra 'bounce' before settling, which pisses me off. but at 6 clicks the front end is stiff as ****. crosstalk on the adjuster? i wish i knew what that was before i bought them.
compared to my friend's nismo r-tunes (which is similarly springed at 8kg/mm 6kg/mm) my ride quality is complete ******* ***. i blame the shock. i'll be the first to admit i thought they were pure gold when i first installed them. at that time i had only experienced ksport and tein he. but after riding in other cars, i realize they suck. i would not buy them again.
i know they have a good reputation, which makes me wonder how bad some of these other coilovers could possibly be.
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I thought the same thing but much harsher. Seems like everyone is into the whole I need coilovers to drift. What I would like to know is what people are testing in order to come to the conclusion that you need coilovers??
You need to go hit the track, test your current setup, tweak it to fix any understeer, oversteer issues. Test it again, tweak it some more. Once you get your car to the point that NOTHING else fixes the handling issues you're experiencing then go with a setup that will give you the results you want/ NEED.
Looks to me like this is another "I wanna drop my car to the ground so it looks uber-mad-tyte-cool while I drift" thread.
LOL at the informative post by Unicorn squad!
how many people have actually CORNER WEIGHED THEIR CARS after the coilover install?? First noob to chime in with how they did it won't be in my sig all of 2008.
You need to go hit the track, test your current setup, tweak it to fix any understeer, oversteer issues. Test it again, tweak it some more. Once you get your car to the point that NOTHING else fixes the handling issues you're experiencing then go with a setup that will give you the results you want/ NEED.
Looks to me like this is another "I wanna drop my car to the ground so it looks uber-mad-tyte-cool while I drift" thread.
LOL at the informative post by Unicorn squad!
how many people have actually CORNER WEIGHED THEIR CARS after the coilover install?? First noob to chime in with how they did it won't be in my sig all of 2008.
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Originally Posted by unicorn_squad
Originally Posted by fcdrifter13
Why do you need coil overs if your just doing it for fun.
Originally Posted by phoenix7
I thought the same thing but much harsher. Seems like everyone is into the whole I need coilovers to drift. What I would like to know is what people are testing in order to come to the conclusion that you need coilovers??
You need to go hit the track, test your current setup, tweak it to fix any understeer, oversteer issues. Test it again, tweak it some more. Once you get your car to the point that NOTHING else fixes the handling issues you're experiencing then go with a setup that will give you the results you want/ NEED.
Looks to me like this is another "I wanna drop my car to the ground so it looks uber-mad-tyte-cool while I drift" thread.
LOL at the informative post by Unicorn squad!
how many people have actually CORNER WEIGHED THEIR CARS after the coilover install?? First noob to chime in with how they did it won't be in my sig all of 2008.
You need to go hit the track, test your current setup, tweak it to fix any understeer, oversteer issues. Test it again, tweak it some more. Once you get your car to the point that NOTHING else fixes the handling issues you're experiencing then go with a setup that will give you the results you want/ NEED.
Looks to me like this is another "I wanna drop my car to the ground so it looks uber-mad-tyte-cool while I drift" thread.
LOL at the informative post by Unicorn squad!
how many people have actually CORNER WEIGHED THEIR CARS after the coilover install?? First noob to chime in with how they did it won't be in my sig all of 2008.
You know Pheonix, I think I should read your posts through before posting this but... why? haha.
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if you actually have coilovers you'll realize there's a lot more benefits to them than conerweighting, and that corner weighting really is not neccesary unless you really think its important to get every 1/100th out of your lap times.
I don't think anyone is saying you 'need' coilovers to drift, or that you need them if you are being competetive.... whatever.
dude said he wants coilovers... does he need any reason? then he's trying to find a setup that will work for daily driving/drifting. and this suddenly means he thinks he NEEDS them to drift?
get real.
drifting is about having fun. having fun with drifting is about liking the way your car feels when you drive it. coilovers help dramatically with this... eh? just because your car isn't 'corner weighed' and aligned perfectly, doesn't mean you're not going to feel any advantages from having coilovers.
and I guarantee 90% of you won't notice any difference from corner weighting your cars anyway.
if you're in drifting to be competetive, then you're not in the right motorsport. try auto-x.
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if you actually have coilovers you'll realize there's a lot more benefits to them than conerweighting, and that corner weighting really is not neccesary unless you really think its important to get every 1/100th out of your lap times.
I don't think anyone is saying you 'need' coilovers to drift, or that you need them if you are being competetive.... whatever.
dude said he wants coilovers... does he need any reason? then he's trying to find a setup that will work for daily driving/drifting. and this suddenly means he thinks he NEEDS them to drift?
dude said he wants coilovers... does he need any reason? then he's trying to find a setup that will work for daily driving/drifting. and this suddenly means he thinks he NEEDS them to drift?
get real.
drifting is about having fun. having fun with drifting is about liking the way your car feels when you drive it. coilovers help dramatically with this... eh? just because your car isn't 'corner weighed' and aligned perfectly, doesn't mean you're not going to feel any advantages from having coilovers.
and I guarantee 90% of you won't notice any difference from corner weighting your cars anyway.
drifting is about having fun. having fun with drifting is about liking the way your car feels when you drive it. coilovers help dramatically with this... eh? just because your car isn't 'corner weighed' and aligned perfectly, doesn't mean you're not going to feel any advantages from having coilovers.
and I guarantee 90% of you won't notice any difference from corner weighting your cars anyway.
if you're in drifting to be competetive, then you're not in the right motorsport. try auto-x.
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I have yet to see anyone post information about the dampening, rebound, camber, caster, and any of the good old NECESSARY adjustments needed in order to fully take advantage of your $1200+ setup so the car actually HANDLES well. If you're not concerned about actually buying a product and using it for it's INTENDED PURPOSE then why get it? That's like buying an M3 for your 80 year old grandma.
unless you're in a racing class with lots of extremely good drivers, where every little fraction of a second matters, its not going to make any difference whether you have a set of coilovers thats been tested for years, or a new setup that gives the car a good feel.
either way, your driving isn't good enough for a different set of coilovers to really make a difference in your lap times.
that makes no sense to me. ANY of what you said ^^.
that drifting is fun? that coilovers make a difference even if you don't cornerweight the car?
. It's a sport now? I must have missed the memo.
yeah, you're right, I guess auto-x isn't really a sport.
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This was a simple inquiry into some brands, and to get some opinions from people. Once I get started drifting then I'll worry about the tuning. Plus I don't wanna run my setup (it's bone stock) and break something because it's my daily driver. I want to get something reliable. I realize that everything breaks eventually, but I dont want that to happen the first day I take it out.
And no, this isnt JP
And no, this isnt JP
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so ****** what? if the coilovers feel good, what else matters?
unless you're in a racing class with lots of extremely good drivers, where every little fraction of a second matters, its not going to make any difference whether you have a set of coilovers thats been tested for years, or a new setup that gives the car a good feel.
unless you're in a racing class with lots of extremely good drivers, where every little fraction of a second matters, its not going to make any difference whether you have a set of coilovers thats been tested for years, or a new setup that gives the car a good feel.
either way, your driving isn't good enough for a different set of coilovers to really make a difference in your lap times.
you must be a moron... do you know how to read? what don't you understand?
that drifting is fun? that coilovers make a difference even if you don't cornerweight the car?
that drifting is fun? that coilovers make a difference even if you don't cornerweight the car?
yeah, you're right, I guess auto-x isn't really a sport.
you're funny.
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This was a simple inquiry into some brands, and to get some opinions from people. Once I get started drifting then I'll worry about the tuning. Plus I don't wanna run my setup (it's bone stock) and break something because it's my daily driver. I want to get something reliable. I realize that everything breaks eventually, but I dont want that to happen the first day I take it out.
And no, this isnt JP
And no, this isnt JP
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If you really are into drifting then look into the rear toe eliminators to give your car a balanced feel and just hit the track.
If you're concerned about your DD breaking then you have a choice:
1. don't put it in situations where the added stress might make your DD into a lawn ornament (i.e., DRIFTING or TRACK)
2. inspect, replace, upgrade things and stay on top of your car so it's always in good shape.