gvink

some guy on E-Bay is selling a second-gen GTU with a six-cylinder Chevy engine from a Blazer installed. First $1,500 takes it ...

Unfortunately, seller doesn't answer the most pertinent question: Why?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=594201431

vaughnc

Yeah,

I decided not to post that here as I HATE when people do this.

I throw the same rotten eggs at these as TIIs with aftermarket bodykits.

Guess you could call it a zombie rx-7 as the heart and soul have been RIPPED out and replaced with an evil one.

vmb

couldnt agree more ....why put a eng that will leak from the intake ,oil pan ,front cover ,rear main etc etc ....the list can go on and run like crap ...when he could of just bolted some performance parts and run better than any 6 cly

Bean

he prolly did it to be different, the same exact reason you boys like the 7 in the first place...

I dunno why he put a damn 6cyl in there... I would have done a 350 V8 or something...
if I was going to do a 6-cyl it would have been a GN motor...

and no it wouldn't have run better than any 6-cyl...
if it was a turbo it would beat most N/A 6-cyl...
there are several turbo ones that are extremely fast...

I'm sure you know what a GN is right?

gnx7

iTrader: (10)

A carbed V6 in the 2nd gen isn't worth the effort as it won't produce enough power........

I personnally think some V6's in the 2nd gen RX-7 are a good combo. At least one from Buick Grand National with factory 3.8i turbo/intercooled power!

Can your daily driver run mid 11's with total reliability, stock turbo, and lay down double the torque potential of a 13B?

Car will soon be in the 10's with bigger turbo and better heads. No dreaded APEX seal failure to worry about......

GNX7

vmb

think about it if the v6,v8 or any piece oh crap piston engine would suit the rx7 better ,mazda would of installed one in it ,its a disgrace to put anything but a rotary i rather install a stock 10a engine from a r100 into my turboll before i put a non reving gm or ford product into my car .......if you got a v8 stick it into a non aerodynamic,non corning mustang or camaro ........

ps how many grand national do you see on the road running.....somethimes think before speaking brother!:p

vaughnc

HAVE you seen the 6 cyl. miata under development - now THAT's A JOKE.

They got a friggin hood extension/scoop to fit it in.

I'll take the pocket rocket 13B-evolve engine thank you.

BogusFile

That last post was plain assinine. Why would you rather put a sub 100hp engine in your TII rather than a V6 or V8. Why do you think piston engines are so shitty? I personally prefer the rotary, but Im not ignorant enough to badmouth piston engines because they are fine peices of machinery. So I'll ask you again, why are piston engines shitty?

vmb

hey bro your showing your apopka colors!!!!
im not sayin there shitty ....im just saying taking a rotary out of a turboll to put a v6 is not that smart, after relocating motor mounts ,brake booster ,exhaust and all other misc to make it fit into the turbo ll and run equal or less times than a rotary .....well that doesnt make any sense ...thats like livin in a nice apt in winter park and going to a trailer in apoka and paying the same rent !!!
sometimes we need to analyze situations and i understaand some people need to install v8 on there cars ,lawn mowers etc etc .......but come on it needs to end at one point

i like fast cars it doesnt matter what engine in it
but i would not take a corvette and stick a 12a wankel in it to be different!!!!

sometimes we need to analyze the situation!!!

woa

SuperchargedRex

For those of you saying why replace a TII with a V6, its a GTU, so that means it was an NA. And simple bolt ons will not get an NA over the 200hp range by much, if at all. I have the Chevy 4.3L V6 in my boat, and it has 215hp at the flywheel.

As some of you know, I'm getting a rebuilt motor to replace mine with the leaking oil rings. All I can say is if I'd had a basically free motor to put in my RX-7 right now with roughly the same amount of hp, I'd be saying goodbye to the rotary.

My $.02

Thaniel

That's a thought. Wouldn't that just make the american car guys pissed.

The corvette has had a rotary in it for a concept car once back in the late 1970's I believe.

Guess someone beat us to it.

Also I thought a nissan v-6 from a 300zx (maybe even a turbo) would be nice in an RX-7. Not in my favorite RX-7 but mabe some rusty junker for fun.

gnx7

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VMB- you are a jackass and have little knowledge about cars

1) you don't see many GN's sitting on the side of the road because they are very desirable and will smoke 95% of the RX-7's on the road.

2) if you do see one sitting on the side of the road.... let me know and I'll buy it as it was the fastest US production car in that time.
for $500 a stock GN can be made to run 12's.... enuf said!

3) If you think a turbocharged 13B is more reliable than any turbo'd piston engine you are dreaming. If you push both to their limits I guarantee you a piston engine will last longer and produce much more torque.

4) the reason I put this engine in my RX-7 is for the handling/braking/aerodynamics and weight advantage of the RX-7.... which is what I love about the car. Not the wimpy 13B it came with.

When you get your first ride in a 2800lb car with 500ft/lbs of torque at a low RPM you will be a believer that the 13B isn't God's answer to power.

I respect the rotary and the fact that the 13B can make some unbelieveable power... but they are expensive to reach that power level and very tempermental (blown apex seals).

Why spend $20-30K to run 11's and have a great handling car that could pop a motor because you got a crappy tank of gas (13B)..... when you can be innovative.... spend $10K and run 10's with a car that handles nearly the same.

10A in your turbo 2...... I've heard it all now.

Look up Camaro with 1LE option on the internet and it will spank your little butt all over the road course.

I'm not a domestic lover or import hater.... I just respect offerings from both camps ..... as both have their drawbacks and advantages.

The 13B is a bad *** motor.... but its longevity is something I'm not prepared to gamble on. Others are... and I salute your dedication and effort in swapping in new 13B's.

Read some more Import Tuner VMB and keep your thinking very shallow as it currently is.

* if you open your mind and investigate how other engines/manufacturers have engineered their latest hot offerings, you can educate yourself and become a much smarter hot rodder.

Just my 2 cents.... which I'm sure many don't give a crap about anyway.

GNX7

www.v8rx7.com/mark.htm 11 second sleeper

t_mak@mail.plymouth.edu

Hmm this is getting really retarded. It takes a lot to get a NA rotary to make 200hp. Yet it doesnt take a lot of time and effort to drop another motor in there? Stop talking like a Honda boy and wake up. The RX-7 was unique in its own way, stop ruining it. If you want to ruin it, go find a Civic and put a V16 in there. The car was designed with the rotary engine in mind. If they wanted a piston car, it would have been the MX-7.

HN

i love both cars and i love engine swaps. i used to be a v8 guy at heart(ford) and i can appreciate the love of pistons. the sound of a nice cam with flommies is absolutely beautiful. the sound of a gn's turbo wailing at staging is something i absolutely love. i personnaly have 2 rx7s, rx4 and soon to have a bmw740il. this bmw will be the only piston car i will own unless they make a bigger beemer. the smoothness of the rotary and the ability to hit 10grand effortlessly is what i love the rotary for. if these people want to do their engine swaps so what. engine swaps have been getting done for decades and will continue. if you can afford it do what ever you like.

vmb

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND TAUGHTS WAS OK IN THE USA
TO START CALLING ME NAMES ONLY MAKES YOU THAT MORE IGNORANT!
IM NOT A V8 HATER ,JUST NOT IN A MAZDA RX7 ,DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE CAR.
I GUESS YOU REALLY HAVE A BIG PROBLEM BUT PEOPLE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS OF YOUR CAR AND TELLING YOU THE TRUTH .
DONT HATE ME ,I DIDNT COME UP WITH THE GRAND IDEA OF PUTTING A V6 IN THE RX7
AS TO YOUR COMMENTS OF A V6 RELIABILITY AGAINST A ROTARY .....BUDDY IF YOU TAKE A 4.3 BLAZER AND LOOK AT THE REPAIR HISTORY VERSUES A ROTARY OVER 10 YEARS I BET YOU THAT THE 4.3 WOULD HAVE TWICE THE REPAIRS ......I CANBACK THAT UP ANYTIME
IF I HAD THE MONEY I WOULD BUY YOUR RX7 TAKE IT TO BITHLO AND HAVE IT CRUSHED !!!!!!!!!!

xp882

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ahh yes project (xp882) 4rotor covette with 450hp N/A...to bad the president died and they stoped all progress

racerfoo

vmb, i think something is wrong with your CAPS LOCK button.

Agent_D

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hahaha i love the talk of the blown apex seal crap, that seems to be all the piston guys' excuses for not liking rotaries, when in fact the stock mazda apex seals will not break from shear HP until 1300hp, if you dont have the car tuned right your gonna break one, hp has nothing to do with it, as for pistons, umm piston rings, rods, rocker arms, valve train, valves, cams, must i go on with all the **** on them that can go wrong, and you say wimpy 13b, how do you come to that conclusions i dont see 150hp out of 1.3litres being wimpy, and especially with the new 250hp n/a renesis thats coming out, i agree, think before you speak. torque who gives a **** about torque, it just gives the "seat of your pants" effect, when the pistons make so much torque down low they actually hurt their 1/4 mile times lol, my friend has a 600hp camaro that he races, its 600hp@7000rpm, and 530tq@6000rpm, when his torque is raised from 530 he actually goes slower in the 1/4, so what the hell do you need torque for?? if you want torque go get a ford f-350 with a power stroke diesel and pull a house or something.

TriangleMan

grand national is a BUICK! BUICK = OLD FART CAR!
RX-7 stands for Rotary eXperiment 7 = ROTARY ENGINE!
therefore, if you are an old fart, and you would like to rename your car to OFX-1 Old Fart eXperiment 1, then go right ahead and put an old fart engine in your car that is named for its engine.

just messing with ya gnx7, actually, if i could afford it and didn't mind the downtime, i'd put a 350 in mine. i love the sound of those engines almost as much as a rotary in full rev. plus having camaros and mustangs thinking i've got some 4 banger or something and i rev it up and they hear chevy noise they'll **** themselves. 300 hp with even more torque in a 2800 lb car? damn, i'd have to get like 265's in the back

vmb

i would do to your rx7 piston eng

the buick

vmb

the genius who put a piston in a rx7

the rx7 with a heart of spam!!!

your car after installing a piston eng

vmb

after looking at the orange valve covers on the eng

my car can do this to yours!!!

your car smokin from valve steam seals ,rings ...etc etc

vmb

the mazda /buick

stay away from fake rx7

junk junk junk

what whereyou thinking!!!!

Silkworm

Wow, there's a series of mature responses.

Paul

gnx7

iTrader: (10)

VMB- you have won.... I give up.

I know that the apex seals are the weak link in 13B's as there are many more components in a piston engine that have points of failure as well. But when pushed to an engine's limits with forced induction..... 13B's seem to get replaced more often that piston engines wouldn't you agree?

-How you made some of those characters I don't know..... and they are pretty hilarious.

BTW- I want a 2000lb '70 510 Datsun with a 13B-REW pushing 400hp someday. So there.... I do like rotaries. Or a '51 Nash Metropolitan with turbo'd 600hp 13B in drag setup. That car is tiny and would be a wheely machine.

This thread is DOA.