Cheaper alternative to Haltech?
10-15-04, 05:54 PM
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Looks that way, so it isn't really an alternative to the E6X at all.
It has a very pretty engine monitor page. Pity all that effort wasn't put into ignition control instead.
It has a very pretty engine monitor page. Pity all that effort wasn't put into ignition control instead.
10-15-04, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Looks that way, so it isn't really an alternative to the E6X at all.
It has a very pretty engine monitor page. Pity all that effort wasn't put into ignition control instead.
It has a very pretty engine monitor page. Pity all that effort wasn't put into ignition control instead.
In PR, 95% of the tuners, use a fuel only ECU, with a dizzy setup. As I said, its pretty much a rebadge Haltech F (fuel only) series.
10-15-04, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
"A high speed microprocessor precisiously caculates fuel delivery..."
That AFR **** seems kindy funky too.... don't like that at all.
10-15-04, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scathcart
That AFR **** seems kindy funky too...
Oh no wait, you're right. It's just a ****...
How dumb do these people think we are?
10-16-04, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
You know you can do that to the E6K too, right?
The whole product line looks cheezy. That engine monitor page in the brochure is 90% made-up rubbish, and calling a simple trim-pot a "precision tuning device" is just laughable. I'd have strong doubts about the quality and capability of any product that needs that sort of marketing.
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10-17-04, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Sure, but the point is Haltech aren't using a whole bunch of marketing BS to sell it, and realise that a cheap plastic **** will work just as well for a fraction of the price.
The whole product line looks cheezy. That engine monitor page in the brochure is 90% made-up rubbish, and calling a simple trim-pot a "precision tuning device" is just laughable. I'd have strong doubts about the quality and capability of any product that needs that sort of marketing.
The whole product line looks cheezy. That engine monitor page in the brochure is 90% made-up rubbish, and calling a simple trim-pot a "precision tuning device" is just laughable. I'd have strong doubts about the quality and capability of any product that needs that sort of marketing.
10-18-04, 02:35 AM
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You're right, marketing like that "works" by warning me the product is probably not worth considering. A quality product does not need that sort of marketing.
10-18-04, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Sorry, but that is how "marketing" works; the ECU is as good or bad as a Haltech F10...
10-18-04, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by snub disphenoid
Which is not as good as an actual standalone ECU.
Says who?
Any first hand experience? or are you in the bandwagon?
Definitely better than the stock system.
There are a lot of myths in the the forum, a a lot of people jump in the *myth bandwagon* I guess you also recommend nothing but the Mazda OEM radiator cap...
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10-18-04, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
You're right, marketing like that "works" by warning me the product is probably not worth considering. A quality product does not need that sort of marketing.
So you don't run an aftermarket air filter? EVERY single aftermarket air filter company claims a 5-15HP increase! Racing Beat claims 60HP when using their exaust system. Does that means that the product doesn't work?
10-18-04, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Says who?
So you don't run an aftermarket air filter? EVERY single aftermarket air filter company claims a 5-15HP increase!
The whole point of marketing is to convince you to buy the product. That brochure left a pretty bad impression on me, so it didn't do it's job very well. It was obviously aimed at non-technical people who who are impressed by pretty looking things with technical-sounding descriptions.
You don't actually take their fancy "tuning" **** seriously do you?
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10-18-04, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Says logic. A fuel and igntion sytem is better than a fuel-only computer. Thus the FC-10 is "not as good as" a E6X. That was all he said.
There was no power claim on the box of the filter I bought...
The whole point of marketing is to convince you to buy the product. That brochure left a pretty bad impression on me, so it didn't do it's job very well. It was obviously aimed at non-technical people who who are impressed by pretty looking things with technical-sounding descriptions.
You don't actually take their fancy "tuning" **** seriously do you?
There was no power claim on the box of the filter I bought...
The whole point of marketing is to convince you to buy the product. That brochure left a pretty bad impression on me, so it didn't do it's job very well. It was obviously aimed at non-technical people who who are impressed by pretty looking things with technical-sounding descriptions.
You don't actually take their fancy "tuning" **** seriously do you?
As you noticed, marketing is for those who don't know; the ones who actually know what they want, will buy the product no matter what, hence your air filter.The FC10 is not as good as a E6X, but it is better than the srtock one; and is cheaper than the E6X.
BTW - The tunning **** on my E6K has NEVER been connected to the ECU
10-18-04, 11:47 AM
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http://www.megasquirt.info/
has any one looked into these? it's a little bit more work to get the thing built, but once it's built u have a pretty nice ecu for not a lot of money spent, just a little more time spent.
aslo if u want more out of a standalone ecu look into the ultrasquirt or the megasquirt2
has any one looked into these? it's a little bit more work to get the thing built, but once it's built u have a pretty nice ecu for not a lot of money spent, just a little more time spent.
aslo if u want more out of a standalone ecu look into the ultrasquirt or the megasquirt2
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