Whizbang

I changed the fluid and filter in the transmission of the 87 N/a. Put it back together. Then used a prybar a found out both motor mounts where holding the motor...(by the way, any one have spare mounts i could buy?) It worked fine before but now i turn the key and hear a buzz noise from somewhere. What the hell happened?

Things i did --> remove battery cable to set if ECu needed reset.

-->Everything is connected
-->has fuel


My possible --> the shifter is lose as hell. I can move from drive to neutral without pushing the button. Did i somehow F*** up the park or neutral switch!?! i wanted to drive it to the HIN but.....

Kingofl337

Did you knock the solenoid wire off the starter?

Whizbang

no. i looked at ALL of the engine bay wiring connections. Everything is connected and there are no broken wires.

WAYNE88N/A

Weird. Check your fuses...

DerangedHermit

The problem is... you have an automatic transmission .

Really though, are you sure you didn't knock any wires loose?

Kingofl337

You can't see the starter from the engine bay. You would have to go under the car to check the starter wires.

95R2-89TII Ground Zero

its gotta be the starter.

Whizbang

we have a rotary life so i was standing under the car and unless the starter can just go "pop!" and die then i dont know what...

Kenteth

Buzz... is this the ENGINE-GONNA-DIE buzzer thats also the same as the high-rev buzzer? If so, check oil and coolant levels, perhaps thats the prob.

BTW: I changed my auto tranny filter way back when. The tranny (it was the 2nd) lasted 6 months. After a five speed swap, the 5spd tranny has 6 months on it already and is holding up 100% For the amount spent, the 5sd swap is definately oneo f the best mods for an automatic tranny rx7.

flamin-roids

Yep if your tranny has over 75k and you don't flush it completly and mix old fluid with new fluid. Kiss your clutch discs goodbye.

Whizbang

crap

Kenteth

Meh, thats why it died? I flushed it out when I installed it, I figured it was just a piece of **** and unable to handle the mild modifications.

Whizbang

anyway, that would would cause the low buzz sound coming from the engine....that wouldnt be the tranny going STFU!!!!! but it is there yet. I figure that will happen next week or when i fix the start problem....

Whizbang

okay here is the update:


starter soleniod clicks.
no bad fuses or relays
looks like all the wire connections are good.
battery works fine


--> I guess i managed to kill the starter by changing the trans fluid. Someone up there must not want me to go to HIN Tommorow.

DerangedHermit

Take your started and go get it tested. Oh, and lick both the connectors on the starter to make sure it has juice .

Whizbang

i can directly connect the starter to the bat via a jumper cable and if it still goes *click* then im sure i am screwed and need a new or working used starter. Who check them anyway? Autozone is lazy and the dealer wants as much as a starter would cost for a yes or no.

DerangedHermit

Autozone, Advance, probably any place like that. At least they advertise they do... that doesn't mean the bastards actually do it.

Whizbang

well i guess i know what i am doing today. If it is broken to the junkyard! if it works seized motor! to the forums!

flamin-roids

Did you make sure you didn't unplug any wires from the trans? There are several starter related wires with an auto trans. But a bad starter is very possible. I've had it happen after messing with the tranny.

rx7henry

****, so you have to flush your tranny out when you change the oil? Maybe thats why my clutch is starting to chatter. So installing a new clutch will be the answer to this?

flamin-roids

Not on a manual you don't. I'll explain. I don't know the technicality of this but I'll do my best. Automatic transmissions use a fluid rather than oil. Its kinda like a hydraulic fluid. If you run a manual with no oil what happens? You chew up the gears. Now with an automatic the car won't shift because its hydraulic. Now there are clutch discs in an automatic trans that come in contact with the fluid. If you have muddy or dark auto fluid thats burnt clutch disc particles. Now after time the fluid changes a little bit and bonds with the components of the tranny. Now since the fluid has changed (god I want to say composition but I'm not very smart) you ahave to leave it be till the tranny dies. If you don't flush it completely the new fluid (which is chemically different) will mix with old fluid and ***** up your clutch discs which enables your automatic to shift. I was a victim of this and almost overnight I lost 3,4,and R. Thank god I have a manual now. Anyways I hope I'm not totally full of ****.

Whizbang

umm how completely drained are we talking....and how did you fix the prob. I drained everything that would come out unless there is some chilln in there.

flamin-roids

When you drop the pan you only drain about half. When they flush it they use a high pressure pump to flush the entire trans. It won't just seep out if you drop the pan. How many miles are on your trans and what color was the fluid that came out?

Flobb

a good flush will clear through all the lines and the oil cooler as well as the tranny itself

JDuncan

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Sometimes I have to smack my shifter into park a few times to get it to start... You may have already tried that, but I thought I would mention it. You can try to start it in neutral for the same effect...