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Old 04-22-07, 05:58 AM
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Thumbs up carbon fiber turbo inlet duct

i wanted to post my new turbo inlet duct that i made. i know some people are going to say im being a ricer or whatever but thats ok. i have this strange affinity for carbon fiber. i really don't know what it is, its kind of mesmerizing to me. i was just posting this to see what people thought about it. there is a difference between the old tid that i had and this one. my old one was just a stainless steal 3 inch 45 degree bend that i bought from napa and when i made this one off of that part it was still pretty hot after a half hour. this carbon fiber one stays cool to the touch at all times its great and i can pretty much stand on this one and it wont flex or anything.

so now for the pics. sorry i don't have a digi cam just a camera phone. :P


btw don't mind the engine bay it kinda dirty right now
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thats not bad... maybe a bit ricer if its a carbon fiber colored sticker wrapped around a pipe... haha
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Looks great. U should mass produce them I would buy one (Especially if it had the factory connects for the BOV and other stuff.
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i have the same feeling for carbon fiber, i love the stuff, if u make another one lemme kno and ill buy it asap
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Originally Posted by dean23
thats not bad... maybe a bit ricer if its a carbon fiber colored sticker wrapped around a pipe... haha


lol oh no its real. this is just my kinda test cause im going to try to do ic piping. it seems to really hold up to the heat very well so today i am going to do the ic piping off the hot side. hmmm i could always try to plumb some brass fitting into it. i have no emissions so i cant remember what goes back into the intake. i think there is 2 for the S4 and 3 for the S5. im going to also get some pictures some pictures of me standing on it just to show that its the real deal.
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i will probably end up making some more probably this week. sometimes i run out of time between school and work. right now i am working on some carbon fiber intercooler piping. i figured that if the tensile strength is that of steel then why wouldn't it hold boost. im going to test my theory out tonight. just a little bit more to go on it.
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alright so i just got the carbon fiber intercooler piping installed and i did some hard runs at 10 lbs of boost and it seems to be holding boost very well(considering its one layer of cf) and when i got home i jumped out of my car and felt the new pipe and its still ice cold. it gotta work wonders for my AIT's. ill post pics i think that im going to redo it cause i don't like the 90 degree elbow that i had to use but hey its all trial and error right. lol
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now that would be nice to have... waht kind of price would you be wanting for say... a CAI tube, like 3", and IC piping?
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^ I second that !!!
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are you making the piping yourself?
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i was thinking like 65 shipped for the turbo inlet duct. as far as ic piping im still working that one out. i for got to add in the thickness of the resin and the fabric so the piping wouldn't fit the 2.5 in couplers that i have with the 2.75 in tbolt clamps that i have. but im working that one out. im going to order some more supplies on wednesday when my girlfriend gets paid but im already starting on the turbo inlet duct. my buddy was telling me that i should do a universal ic kit with some 90 degrees and some straights and some 45 degree bends instead of a specific kit for a particular car.

yeah i am making the piping my self. it seems like one layer of carbon fiber hold up very well to the heat temps and i can boost 14 psi pretty consistently and theres no flex in the pipe at all. plus i know chrome is nice and bling bling but hell cf is like oh man i wanna do my engine bay. LOL
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oh btw what would yall pay for cf ic piping kit that was universal and what would yall pay for a kit that all you have to do is just drill holes???? i know aluminum ic kits on ebay are 100 plus so i really don't know. ive been searching but haven't been able to find any cf ic piping
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I'm just wondering what your AIT's are. Since you aren't able to lose heat anywhere except for the Intercooler.
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hmm i don't have a heat temp gun but i noticed that my airfuel gauge was reading really rich on the same tune that i had. i just had one pipe off the turbo though i didn't have enough to do all the piping yet. lol
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Thats really cool. I wonder how much better the CF insulates the colder intake air than the stock plastic or even the aluminum... i would be interested also
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i too am interested to see how it would dissipate the heat more than the aluminum or even ss steel. i think that the intake temps will be lower than with the metal piping options that are out there. im going to try it out and then take temps with a heat gun to see the temp differences.
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$65 shipped sounds pretty reasonable. Does that include couplers? clamps? Also, do have any kind of support bracket holding up the TID? or does it just support itself?
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I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT!!! I too have a thing for CF and that TID is sex man I definitely want at least the TID let me know how much the full IC piping kit will cost. You could make alot of money man i think you are about to start something big man..
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
$65 shipped sounds pretty reasonable. Does that include couplers? clamps? Also, do have any kind of support bracket holding up the TID? or does it just support itself?

i was just thinking for the pipe. but im currently researching for some good deals on some couplers and clamps. i have no connections for couplers and clamp and things like that. ebay is probably my best bet. let me see. i think that i have about a quarter of a gallon of resin left so im going to try to make some more tid's so that i can start sending them out. i will try to get a good deal with the couplers if i can. i will let you guy know whats going on im hoping to get atleast 3 to 4 more done with the resin that i have left this weekend.... i have to order some more resin and cloth so that i can start making alot more of them.

also i haven't ran a bracket to hold the pipe up for years(about 3). with the metal pipe i never had one. so i figured i would try it out with the carbon fiber one. i havn't had any problems yet. the afm and the air filter seem to support everything really well so i really don't have any movement even when racing, autox, or drifting. so i don't see a need to have a mounting bracket.

now just to let ya'll know though this cf intake is 3 inches so if you don't have a fuel cut defenser then your going to need one or your going to be saying hello to fuel cut. i was able to run 14psi with this same diameter intake and 2.5 in exhaust with no problems at all and that was without a boost controller. every now and again like far and few in between i did spike to 20psi but i instanly let off. the boost controller cured that though.lol

as far as the intercooler piping i already made one for my hotsid but i didn't realize that the ic piping that i currenty have is 2.25ID and 2.50OD so when i made the ic pipe for the hot side it ended up being 2.50ID and 2.75OD so what do you know i blew it clean off when i hit 14. but it handeld the heat very well and there was no stress to the pipe at all. but im debating on making a full custom kit for the FC. on that all you got to do is cut your holes and bolt it on. it looks like its between 9 to 15 total feet of piping. im going to be doing this with a mixture of 2 different fabrics. the inside fabric has a heat rating of 1900 degrees so that will take most of the heat that is produced and the the outer is going to be carbon fiber. and i think that is the most cost effective way to make these parts with out charging an arm and a leg. i know most of us gen 2 guys aren't rich.lol im going to run the cost of materials and make my car the work horse for all the testing. lol. if i end up making just the bolt on ic kit for the FC then its going to have bead on it. i haven't decided if im just going to do beads made of epoxy or if im going to flare the carbon fiber at the end of the pipes.

ive been running this set up for about a week now and its holding up really well to the heat and just daily beating that we all love to give our cars..sorry about the long post but between work and school sometime i don't get a chance to look at the forum but i look at it atleast twice a day though. can't get enough of a bad *** forum like this.

also any constructive critisizim is more than welcome. sometime i just don't see other options out there.


alright so update i was just searching for 3inch couplers and i think that i might have found some at a reasonable price to connect the TID to the AFM. if i am able to purchase these i will include them. thanks.

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damn dude, a cf intake would be so baller!
definitely make some, even if I don't have the money to buy one now, I will later!

and gl with your intercooler piping, I was thinking that it would help with heat dissipation a lot since the cf will not retain heat like a metal pipe would, and thus make the whole FMIC setup much more efficient.
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and gl with your intercooler piping, I was thinking that it would help with heat dissipation a lot since the cf will not retain heat like a metal pipe would, and thus make the whole FMIC setup much more efficient.

thats what i was thinking and i noticed that when i did use the mock up cf pipe that i made that it didn't heat soak as much as i thought that it would which also put my narrow band(i know i need a wide band lol) more rich than it normaly was with the aluminum ic piping.

thats also one of the thought about using the two different types of fabrics to do this just for the fact that one has a 1900 degree temp rating. i mean if your ic piping saw those temps your car better be on fire or something lol
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Originally Posted by cezonetheillest
i too am interested to see how it would dissipate the heat more than the aluminum or even ss steel. i think that the intake temps will be lower than with the metal piping options that are out there. im going to try it out and then take temps with a heat gun to see the temp differences.
How thick is the CF once it is all done? Would it be possible to get it extra thick? I would hate to have to heat wrap a nice looking CF intake pipe.

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Carbon Fiber 600F
Kevlar 250-350F
Fiberglass Holds 75% of tinsility at 650, softens at 1350F

these are some specs of the different fabrics. im looking for tensile strength. even though the tube is going to be thin you should be able to stand on it and not worry about breaking it(atleast i can but i only weigh about 135)

here goes the specs of tensile strength.

Our Carbon Sleeves are Aerospace grade
34Msi Modulus (Compression Strength)
640ksi Tinsile Strength (Breaking Stength)

hope this chart helps alittle. i can make it thicker i haven't measured how thick the one that i have on my car is though. i can also do the carbon kevlar braid of fabric or the carbon/fiberglass braid of fabric also.
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alright time for an update.

so i am going to be vacuum bagging all the intakes. this will produce a way better part. i won't have to use so much resin so the part will be lighter than the one on my car and the resin to fabric ratio will be perfect. im going to make some this weekend like this and let yall know how they come out. plus it cuts down on the time that its going to take for me to make these parts since less sanding will be involved since vacuum bagging will produce a smoother part off the bat.
man im glad im in school for orthotic and prosthetics. it really teaching me alot about different techniques than what i was doing on my own. lol i know im rambling again.
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I have the feeling you are on to something real big here my friend. I think that you will be making lots of $$ on this real soon man... Keep it up i will be a customer of yours my car is going to be white with a CF color scheme. Its a 10AE that will have CF hood, CFside splitters, lip, matching rims, white painted housings, and now i can have the CF piping. That will be unique and look AMAZING...



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