twigg

I put it in gear and spun the axel and all seems to be okay there, the clutch preasure is strong, but i can roll the car in gear. Is it something as simple as a throw-out bearing? What are the common causes of this? I have a job in 2 weeks and this must be fixed.

Any help is very appreciated, can't get to my new job without the rex "moving"


Thanks guys!

jjcobm

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Yeah it's supposed to spin the axles when the car is in gear.

??? The car is supposed to roll in gear. What is the problem? If you are trying to park on a hill, thats what the parking brake is for.

twigg

when i release the clutch the car does not move, and i can roll the car in any gear.

3vil

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just to double check, by "roll" you mean that you can push the car white the trans is in gear correct?

94rx7tt

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Clutch disk is gone and needs replacing.

When you say 'clutch pressure is strong' what you are feeling is the slave cylinder, fork, throw out bearing and pressure plate working correctly when you depress the pedal.

The pressure plate, slave cylinder, fork and Thow out bearing are all still functioning correctly but without the clutch disk, you ain't going anywhere.

m0x

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^Yup. I once bought an E30 with the clutch so far gone it would barely budge an inch when in gear.

94rx7tt

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You are kidding, right? I hope you aren't a mechanic because you'd need to find a new job.

The car should NOT roll in gear with the engine off, if the clutch assembly is working correctly.

jjcobm

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My car moves when I put it in gear. I wouldn't expect anything else. Enough said. Even with the engine off, the car will move depending on what gear you put it in and will move regardless if enough force is exerted on it. If your car is so cool that it doesn't move while in gear, go park it on a steep hill and leave it in gear. You will do me a big favor. Do you not know how drivetrain works?

If you don't want your car to move, that's why brakes were invented.

Phearthe-Rx7

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um.....yeah it will roll in gear, you just have to give it enough force to turn the drive train, on flat ground that's kinda hard for a person, on a hill it would be easy, how do you think people push start cars? (yes I realize you pop the clutch after you get it moving, same idea still)

94rx7tt

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The only way it will move when in gear is if it's turning over the engine. Most people are not strong enough to turn the engine over while pushing it on level ground. If you can do that then your engine doesn't have much compression.

Of course it will roll on a hill because the weight of the car is turning the engine over when in gear. It should NOT roll in gear with good compression in the motor.

OP was talking about being able to push the car with absolutely NO resistence. For the purposes of diagnosing the OP's post your assesment was and is, incorrect. So, you might want to learn how to diagnose the problem before you post to a thread.

NOT even close to the same idea. People don't push start cars in gear. You push the car while it is in NEUTRAL and when enough forward motion has been produced, you let the clutch out in 1st gear.

jjcobm

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I don't want to start a big debate, but just want to point out a few things. I do know where you are coming from:

Ever try pushing a car in 5th gear? Do you know how an overdrive gear works?

It SHOULD not move on a flat surface with the engine off, car in 1st gear, and no one pushing the car, I agree. But you have to agree a car will have the ability to "roll" as in the wheels "rolling" whenever in gear as I previously stated. If that wasn't true, then the transmission would basically be there to stop your car and neutral to allow it move. : )

Sorry, I guess you are better than me at interpreting someone's vague post. The OP said the car "rolls" in gear, not the car moves when I "push" it while in gear. Plus he kept saying he releases the clutch and the car doesn't move! Of course it's not supposed to move when you are releasing the clutch since you essentially are disengaging the transmission from the engine. Maybe a better worded post would provide a better answer?

Oh, but I do. Let's stop there. The OP got his answer, clutch is dead

Phearthe-Rx7

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and you didn't read the parenthesis......awesome

NoPistons!

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Um, you can turn a rotary over pretty easy by hand....that is if you dont suffer from muscular dystrophy/atrophy in your arms.


Drop the transmission, replace clutch with oem quality and you're good.

If you smell clutch burning, and aren't going anywhere, that's also a good indication that you need a replacement.

twigg

putting a whole new stage 2 clutch and flywheel, everything was shot hardcore. thanks for the input guys.

94rx7tt

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You're welcome. Glad you got it fixed. Always good to replace everything since you're in there.