dwillms

ok, I was driving to work today, like every weekday and I always think, Im on the highway my 87 NA can get up to 180-200KM/h easy enough I dont have to worry about the police and their little Ford Impalas, but then I remembered that our city now has a camero highway pursuit cruiser (having his lights on at the side pulling over a van jogged my memory and my foot came off the gas for a few seconds) and im wondering would that kick the **** out of me on the high way? Im thinking it would, just want to check what you guys think.

-Daryl

Silver88GXL

I think they would also. The Impalas would also. I don't think the engines they have in the Police cars are the stock engines found at the dealership. I wouldn't try to out run the police unless you are on a mountain road and have a GOOD suspension and know how to drive.

my .02

Carl

RETed

Generally speaking, I'd bet they would whoop your ***...&nbsp Why?&nbsp Cause those bitches take driving schools that TEACH them how to control their cars and the limits.&nbsp Unless I'm sorely underestimating your driving skill, I'd give the easy nod to the police.

You haven't been to Hawaii, huh.&nbsp They are running Camaro SS's and Mustang Cobras over there now...not just stock, full exhaust, brake kits, suspension...&nbsp Any of these guy would laugh if you tried to get away from them.



-Ted

dwillms

Woah woah woah....Your saying a ford impala will beat my 87 Rx7? I got a pretty good engine in my mother ****** with racing beat full straight exhaust no cats. and KN air filter....

Impala will beat me on the highway?

please tell me otherwise

RETed

Yes, even those crappy Impalas - don't they make 200hp out of a 6-cylinder?&nbsp You need to remember that most police departments are under strict orders to back down on chases that get close to 100mph or ~160kph for you...

I don't know if your police department does high-speed drivers training, but I got to see some action at the CHP (California, USA) training site, and it's impressive...



-Ted

brando

The Cop Camaros will Run 197MPH and have ~ 400 Hp. It is crazy speed. My friend testdrove one that was on a used car lot once. They will Fly.

FPrep2ndGenRX7

Nothing can outrun the Motorola's. They travel at the speed of light or somewhere close.

brando

Chevy Makes Impala's

Barwick

HA!! Are you kidding me? The mustang suspension is a friggin' joke.. for that matter, Ford suspension is a joke. Not just the settings and parts they use, but the chassis hardpoints and all else that could affect the handling of the vehicle, just plain suck. A friend of mine works on the suspension for the Lincoln LS, and they change something by like .1 degrees and it drastically changes the handling of the vehicle. Meanwhile, their manufacturing tolerances allow for like 1-2 degrees either way, so that .1 degree that changed the whole car, imagine that multiplied by ten or twenty.. "Quality is Job One" Yeah right.

And on a similar note, the Camaros (and Mustangs) are friggin' boats with four wheels. They're incredibly overweight, sure lots of power would screw you (the criminal) on the highway, but take just about any RX-7 with over 200hp and you could lose 'em on a moderately twisty road ANY day.

Then again, you can't outrun the radio.

Silver88GXL

Well, I could be wrong, but I didn't know that Ford made the Impala, I thought that was Chevy. Also, the Impala's they have near me are making well over the 200hp. I was next to one on the highway when he had one leave on a call. How quickly he pulled was similar to a 3rd gen. Plus, I have seen them leave stop lights on a call. I doubt my 2nd gen could keep up. So, I don't know what Impala you have near you, but they don't seem to be the same as I have near me.

Carl

NZConvertible

Police cars have a feature that makes them much faster than an RX-7: contact with other police cars! Running from cops (or claiming you can) is about the stupidest damn thing you can do.

RETed

You do know the Cobras all run IRS rears now, right? They might not be in the same class in sophistication and design engineering as the FC IRS, but it drastically improved the suspension versus the live rear axles...

It still comes down to driving skill.&nbsp I know a bunch of these cops regularly autocross every month!



-Ted

UniqueTII

I wouldn't play with a cop's Camaro with my TII, so I wouldn't suggest it in a N/A.

supergoat

Around my old house we had few camaro SS's, 2 93 Mustang Cobras and one 99 Cobra. I lived near 3 major interstates so it was very common to see them. Near Charlotte, NC I have seen an M3.

Powridah

yea I dunno the cops are just too organized, this isnt fast and the furious. I see those Camaro's all over the ****** freeway. But I wouldnt ever try to run from one, there isnt a point. in town in residential it might be a different story , because they cant speed around in residential and if you know someone who lives close by call them up and tell them to open the garage and fly in. otherwise the cops will fry your ***, there like ****** cayotes they work in pack's

Powridah

oh yea, if they ever get these happening, anyone who will run from the cops will get creamed

scathcart

LOL. Daryll, stop running from cops. When you go to court for all those tickets, you're gonna be fucked....
Camaro was never spelled CAMERO, and it is completely incorrect.
Chevy makes the Impala, and as I thought, the police version begins with Chevy's 270 hp 6 cylinder, then adds a few things.
Daryll, you would lose. I know how you drive, just like every other 19 year old kid out there including me. Think that we can out drive anyone. I recall the 16 year old saying that: "No one can drift as good as me...." lol. Just because we can get our cars up to 240-260 km/hr every now and then doesn't mean we can out-drive people who have taken driving school.
And they would get your plates. You can't outrun ICBC. Don't attempt it man. Woulda thought the $560 speeding ticket woulda taught you!
LOL, man, keep it up.
Congrats on the new car, btw. Heard its nice. You should be around 120-125 rwhp now.
Sean Cathcart

NZConvertible

This might make you think twice...

http://www.geocities.com/fdkai2000/pca_jp.htm

nathandarby67

Just curious, have you ever actually driven a newer model Camaro? I can't speak for the mustang (and wouldn't...don't like 'em!), but my daily driver is a 95 Trans Am, and I spent 2 years with my TII as my daily driver and I still have that car, so I have speant a LOT of time driving both. Sometimes I would go out and drive one and come home and immediately swap out to the other, you get the best feel for any differences like that. It's amazing all the little things you pick up on when you go right from one vehicle to the other. I won't argue that the Camaros/Trans Am's aren't bigger and heavier. They are. But they are FAR FAR from a "boat on wheels" see a Lincoln Town Car or any SUV for that matter if you want to know what a land yacht looks like. Before I get flamed here, let me say I LOVE RX-7's, and I love my Trans Am. But I am not blind to the faults of either one just becasue I like them. BOTH are true driver's cars in every sense of the word, but BOTH have their own unique problems as well as their advantages. Here is something I wrote a week or so ago comparing the two cars:

On a personal note, my second car was an 87 TII (still have it though....I'm not letting that one get away!) and my current car is a 95 Trans Am, so I have a lot of experience with both cars. The TA is much faster in a straight line, but there is a lot of potential in the TII motor, you just have to know how to get it out, and doing so isn't exactly cheap. Acceleration is all about power to weight ratios, and the TII weighs less, so you won't need to match the horsepower numbers of the WS6.

As for handling, my personal opinion is that the TA's handling is far from being like a "pig" or "elephant". They are different from the RX-7. Actually they are great handling cars, you just have to get used to and know how to deal with their width and weight, and most especially the live axle rear end. If those cars had independent rears they would be phenomonal. They are big, low, and wide, but you don't start to get really hampered by their weight until you start getting into really tight corners and switchbacks, like slow second gear conrners. They stick like crazy though steady state, they just aren't as good at quick transitions. They have very good handling characteristics and are easy to steer with the throttle. They aren't the best autocross car, but once the speeds get higher like on a road course they start to shine. So in faster corners ON SMOOTH PAVEMENT (that damn live axle!) I would say the cars are equal, and it is going to come down to tire selection and DRIVER SKILL more than anything. That's comparing corner for corner. Around any road course, the TA will be faster lap for lap because of its huge horsepower advantage and it handles ALMOST as well as the TII. The TII by comparison gives much more driver feedback...you really feel connected to the car. They are a little harder to drive smoothly, but once you get in a rythm they are very rewarding cars to drive. They are much more adept at intial turn in and switchbacks. All in all, the TA is a faster car hands down, but the TII is probably more fun to drive.

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LOL dude are you on crack? hah.

197mph? Thats ferrari and lambo territory.

The Police edition camaro has a top speed of 163mph. As does the firebird. The mustangs are a little less in the 140's.


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Turbo23

iTrader: (4)

ok lets see here... do u think theyd give a cop some slow *** car to drive??? Yes those things are modified, ive seen some of the newer model of cop cars with vette engines that are fast! So they dont drive a POS. Those things are made to handle almost anyone! and yes even old shitty looking cop cars can move!

sinfestboy

when I visited europe about 3 years ago (family trip) we went on the autobahn for about 2 hours. I remember seeing Lotus Police cars... dont remember which one it was, I know it was the big one, that was twin turbo...
andyways, the american police will never be able to compete with a modified lotus for sheer coolness factor. and I bet since it was an autobahn patrol car, it did (does) well OVER 200 mph... I remember it had the huge wing... It looked so funny...

Poindexter10thae

iTrader: (2)

Well, if ford made an impala, maybe, but it is a chevy impala, and yes, the new impala's and Especially the camaro's would own an 87 n/a, maybe not a hot TII but definitely an N/A

Scott 89t2

FYI those unmarked red vans on the vancouver area highways have NOS

scathcart

I hope you're kidding Scott......
Sean Cathcart