2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

A/C Expert: Clutch?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-24-13, 12:34 PM
  #1  
Rotary Enthusiast

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdonnell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cape Canaveral FL
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
A/C Expert: Clutch?

I searched but there is too much stuff on A/C and I'm getting ready for a trip. I hear a sort of grinding / bearing noise and see my A/C compressor clutch is kinda moving (engine running with A/C off). Is this the sign the clutch is bad or a symptom it is low on freon?? I had my A/C on earlier during the drive. 88 10AE.

I suppose I could just remove the belt for the trip if need be.

Thanks...
Old 11-24-13, 12:46 PM
  #2  
Manual Rack

iTrader: (50)
 
FelixIsGod29X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Wanaque NJ
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The bearing is no good. You can change the belt to one that bypasses the a/c compressor.
Old 11-24-13, 12:46 PM
  #3  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,827
Received 2,595 Likes on 1,843 Posts
i'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but there IS a bearing in the clutch assembly, and the bearing is what lets the belt part of the thing spin freely.

when you turn the AC on, it energizes a big magnet and this pulls the two halves of the pulley together
Old 11-24-13, 02:38 PM
  #4  
Rotary Enthusiast

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdonnell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cape Canaveral FL
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
It looks like the belt goes from the center hub around the A/C compressor across and idler. Can't the belt just be removed? I'm not sure why a belt is needed to bypass the compressor? Can you expand on this a little? Appreciate the info.

Bearing failure. Kinda makes since since I had an odd faint sound in the area for some time, but couldn't quite isolate it. I thought it was an idler bearing.
Old 11-24-13, 04:07 PM
  #5  
Rotary Enthusiast

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdonnell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cape Canaveral FL
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
It looks like the belt goes from the center hub around the A/C compressor across and idler. Can't the belt just be removed? I'm not sure why a belt is needed to bypass the compressor? Can you expand on this a little? Appreciate the info.

Bearing failure. Kinda makes since since I had an odd faint sound in the area for some time, but couldn't quite isolate it. I thought it was an idler bearing.

Ugh, its a Nippon Denso compressor.
Old 11-24-13, 09:35 PM
  #6  
Trunk Ornament

iTrader: (11)
 
AGreen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Yes, the belt can be removed without problem. You just won't have AC, which won't even be necessary right now.
Old 11-25-13, 05:54 AM
  #7  
Rotary Enthusiast

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdonnell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cape Canaveral FL
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Thanks for the belt info. I'll remove it until I have a chance to swap out the compressor. It was quite warm yesterday here in FL but turned cold. Regardless, I always like to cycle the system every couple weeks to keep things lubricated - habit from my parents I picked up..
Old 11-25-13, 05:27 PM
  #8  
Manual Rack

iTrader: (50)
 
FelixIsGod29X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Wanaque NJ
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
O yeah i forgot that belt just can be removed. Duhhh brain fart!
Old 11-27-13, 11:26 AM
  #9  
Rotary Enthusiast

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdonnell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cape Canaveral FL
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Well I took the A/C belt off and ordered a remanufactured Nippon Denso compressor, and I think I have a drier on-hand that will fit. Any installation advice???

I did my 90' A/C compressor install with engine out of the car during my engine rebuild, but the 88' engine is in the car. Will I be able to jack the engine high enough to get the lower A/C compressor bolts out?
Old 11-27-13, 04:55 PM
  #10  
Tui
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Tui's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: California
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I was helping a friend replace his AC Compressor on his 2nd Gen. You can remove it without jacking up the engine, but it is a tight fit to get it out.

Before you pull the compressor, I'd do a leak test to make sure the hoses are good.
Old 11-27-13, 06:09 PM
  #11  
Rotary Enthusiast

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdonnell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cape Canaveral FL
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Thanks for the info. That is really good advice and I didn't think about that. I'll put it on my list to accomplish before removing the compressor. Luckily, I still have my portable nitrogen cylinder I used for my other A/C installation. Thanks again!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rotor_veux
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
7
09-19-15 07:13 PM



Quick Reply: A/C Expert: Clutch?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 AM.