ilostmypants

Ok... I have a 89 GTUs. I just got the engine pulled tonight with no problems actually.(took about 2 hours) Here's the thing....I am getting it rebuilt, with a full bridgeport and am deciding on getting a turbo or not.. If I were to get a turbo, could someone tell me exactly what I would need?? I am on a $3k budget for the whole thing...and after the rebuild and bridgeport i should have about 1,400-1,500 left over. Would that be enough for everything else that I would need? Also, I forgot what kind of injectors I needed.(I think they are from a GSL-SE or something like that) Anyone know? Jackasshurts_86@yahoo.com

rotaryrudy

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good job.
I say bridgeprot then get a big bottle of NOS. then make all the little upgrades to make your car run safer like some kind of fuel computer and some bigger injectors, new fuel pump, and.......................................


















a real paint job

jacobcartmill

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what kind of engine management do you have? if you're running a bridgeport on a stock ecu you will actually want to end your life.

3k isnt going to be enough if you still have to rebuild the engine and buy all parts/experience needed to run a bridgeported 13b correctly (especially if its turbo)

Aaron Cake

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Basically what he said.

You're going to need a standalone to make it run well (even if it's NA), and you'll certainly need to go standalone if it's turbo.

Not to mention that a turbo large enough to support a full bridge (are you sure it's just not half bridge?) will be nearly $3K in itself.

You're going to have a mess of a time running a full bridge engine on the stock ECU. And it will be totally choked by the S5 intake manifold.

ilostmypants

yes it's a full bridgeport.. and ive decided to just forget about a turbo for now.. Im gunna get some bigger injectors(can anyone help me choose some or have some for sale?) and probably a Haltech. Anything else I would need?

ilostmypants

might go with nos later on...(once the engine is broken in)

Travelintrevor

i think you should research your project again...then decide what you want...because it sound like you have not though it through

how much HP do you want?

ilostmypants

I'm wantin around 400-450 hp. Anyone have any ideas?? on a 3k budget

ilostmypants

i mean if 3k isnt enough for a rebuild and 400+ hp i could live with around 350-375hp . It's not what i want though

Bukwild

if 3k is your budget and you want any reliability out of this car I would say stop now before you port the thing and its going to blow up on you. You will not even get threw the break in. Engine Management should be step 1 of any build. If you don't have the money for that just stop.

Carl Byck

You need to stop, and rethink your project. Perhaps someone can chime in w/NA BP HP potential, but 1500.00 is not enough for the fuel/cooling/ engine management mods you need to support 400hp. You would be fortunate to get an E6K, and get it tuned for 1500.00. This does not include any of the hardware you need to support 400hp. With that goal, I would look at a Turbo conversion (stock S5 TII, street ported), initially, with the plan of going to an upgraded turbo system at a later date. A BP will not last, and will cost as much as a turbo conversion to support. Not to mention it will be no fun on the street. ssuming excellent overall condition on your car, I would look for a complete donor TII, and go from there. Carl

ilostmypants

alright. thanks for the advice. I think i will just go with a turbo convers. then. I wanted to be different and unique but i guess i just dont have the $$. How much hp u think ill b running with a turbo conversion and streetport?

Carl Byck

Focus your dollars on all the proper parts for a TII conversion. Once you've got that budgeted, you can go a couple of different ways. A streetported TII with stock IC, and a hybrid turbo can be good for about ~275 reliably(FWIW a ~300rwhp TII can run the 1/4 in the high 11s@110-112). There is alot to making it reliable though. If you want, call me on the weekend (sat-sun) when I have unlimited minutes, and I'll spend some time going through your options. So much depends on what kind of a deal you get on a donor as to what you have left for the rest, that what i will do, is give you two, or three scenariosdepending on the funds you have left after the basic conversion. Your job between now and then is to research all the parts you will need for the conversion. Then, from there I will walk you through the potential upgrades from the stock ~150-180hp to the ~300 number I am giving you. The important thing is to take it a litttle slow and do everything the right way the first time. If that means a stocker for now, then so be it, the next thing will be cooling, followed by fuel, and boost control mods. Some of this can be done on the cheap, other parts cannot. Good luck, and feel free to call, Carl 707-696-2705

ilostmypants

ok thanks....I dont want to make this hard on you. But could you or someone maybe send me a list of my options and EVERYTHING I would need to do a tII conversion and the price range of each part? that would help so much. lets c...i think im gunna take the engine to get it rebuilt and streetported tomorrow...What kind of rotors do you recommend i use? s4 tII/s5 tII/ 3rd gen? anyone know of where i can find a cheap full rebuild kit for less than 1k? and for the turbo conversion...will it be possible to buy everything i need for around 1k?

BDC

Hey Ilostmypants, toss me a PM. I can help you with this. I also do this kind of work and particularly exactly this bridgeport turbo setup. I'm in Grand Prairie. Swing on over, sometime.

B