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Old May 15, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Wonder if I should go thru the hassle of installing the Stock ECU on the GFH (w/ Fresh Pineapple Engine) and do a baseline dyno after Break-in and then switch over to the LT-8?
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Old May 15, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
I haven't purchased my Microtech yet, but I can tell you my experience with the Haltech E6K Wiring harness quality of construction: I WAS NOT IMPRESSED! Cold solder globs everywhere (although it was covered in NICE heat shrink).

The HALTECH method of constructing branches was very poor IMHO; stripping 1" of wire; wrapping another wire around it and COLD-SOLDERING, then covering it with heat shrink is not a proper branch construction method.
There is a MAJOR Haltech tuner in the NE who also shares the same opinion of haltechs "harness".


BTW: If my microtech harness is the same way I will bitch and moan and then I will correct it.
I found similar problems in my haltech harness, one of the ground wire branches broke apart in what I'd consider 'normal' handling of the harness during installation. I suspect the others are of similar quality though.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Thing that pissed me off was the comment by one of the Haltech Distributors concerning this problem: "What do you expect for $125.00". Yeah great way to stand behind your product line.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Added pics to http://devils.eng.fsu.edu/~bmatt/mtech/

Yes, that's a "glob" you see. You also see wicked rosin, which is indicative of at least passable construction. I'll also add that these pics were a PAIN to take - the stock harness is loomed with really nice stuff that is by no means flimsy, and isn't split. The heat shrink is really, really good stuff.

With all my experience doing electronics and soldering (several years now), I can confidently say that I don't foresee any problems with the harness.

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Old May 15, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Yo,


So how do I get sponsored by BR7 so I can slap one of these on?! *grin*

Here's what I just did at the dragstrip:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=186458

I'd even *gasp* put a windshield banner sticker on. Heh. Dana and I will install it, take lots of pics and post results. Sound fair? *wink*

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Old May 15, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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Well, first you'll have to install a turbo....

No, two!

Yeah, that's it! You'll have to install one of our prototype twin turbo kits! Muhahahahahah!

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Old May 15, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Yo,


Brandon, you might as well ask me to "go gay"! It ain't gonna happen buddy!

Turbo's on my rotary? Bah!

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Old May 15, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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I see I will be reconstructing a HARNESS. That is an ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE attempt to branch a wire. Oh well if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

BTW Good luck chasing that intermitant fault 3-4 years from now.


ADDED NOTE: A properly performed double crimp utilizing MILSPEC hardware will outperform and outlast an improperly soldered joint any day of the week.

If there is one thing that irratates ME MORE, is pretty packaging covering up INFERIOR workmanship. I will gladly discuss this with any represenative of ANY ECU provider.

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Old May 15, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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Yo,


I just went to a 1/4 calculator. To dip into the high 13's with my car...I'll need 255HP.

Can that be done on my motor even with a MT?

Kevin
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Old May 15, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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I did it on the stock ECU.. where do i send pics, and who do i contact?
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Old May 15, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by RarestRX
Yo,


I just went to a 1/4 calculator. To dip into the high 13's with my car...I'll need 255HP.

Can that be done on my motor even with a MT?

Kevin
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yes, but you need to cut some extra holes into it first.

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Old May 16, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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banzaitoyota: I'll forward your concerns on to Microtech. I suspect that the joint is as such for monetary reasons, but maybe I can convince them it'd be worth it to upgrade. In any case, I'll pass your word along.

RarestRX: I never trust those things. Not unless you can also enter in your various gearing ratios, too. Oh, and your torque curve. Oh, and you car's weight, Cd, Cf, etc, etc, etc.

DJChunter: Congrats, bud.

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Old May 17, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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Anyone in Idaho know how Revolution Rotary's Drag car is running this year? They are running a NA Cosmo Block and Microtech

http://www.revolutionrotary.com/racecar.html
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Old May 27, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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BR7 Racing's first LT8 install onto an N/A is a smashing success.

Read all about it here. Dyno results will be in on Saturday.

Brandon
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Old May 28, 2003 | 06:04 AM
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Old May 29, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Interesting promotion...

The GRM 1st gen project car did a 13.6 with a Electromotive TECII, so the FC should put up similar numbers.

Maybe I should start a "beat the 13-second Microtech car with a Haltech, and I'll pay for your Haltech" campaign?


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Old May 29, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Well, the problem is that a faster Haltech car still wouldn't have as much style

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Old May 29, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by No7Yet
Well, the problem is that a faster Haltech car still wouldn't have as much style
Doh!&nbsp Does your manual come with color copies for wiring diagrams?


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Old May 29, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Not color, but they're so well-done, they don't need to be! This is the best I've got until I get to a scanner later tonight.

Check it, yo.

Brandon
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Edit: That's for the FD, btw. Each application comes with its own diagram.

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Old May 29, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Yo Kevin, is that at the wheels or and the crank HP? Can't wait till summer and a new job, then I will get my Microtech.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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As the GB is nearing a close I think a Bump is in order
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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Yo,

Originally posted by j200pruf
Yo Kevin, is that at the wheels or and the crank HP? Can't wait till summer and a new job, then I will get my Microtech.
The 140 was to the rear wheels. It'd be nice to get it up to the 155-160 mark. We'll see what the TB/ported intakes/sleeves/working 6 ports can do for it.

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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by RarestRX
Yo,



The 140 was to the rear wheels. It'd be nice to get it up to the 155-160 mark. We'll see what the TB/ported intakes/sleeves/working 6 ports can do for it.

Kevin
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That is precisely where we were with Carl Davis's car after initial street tuning (~158 rwhp). Some tuning on the dyno revealed a pretty tough power curve to break :-) I suspect that because the computer was configured for a turbo it didn't have enough load points below atmo to work with. The power curve was great, infact much smoother than with his previous setup. However, i was not impressed with the AFR's and it was plainly aparent that the NA's need more load points below atmosphere to produce a consistent AFR accross the rev range.

Remember that an NA computer IS in development and will be available shortly. Once this batch of computers from the Group Buy comes in we will have our hands on some so we will be sure to let everyone know how they behave!

regards,

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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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So has anyone decided to take the bait on this one? I want to see someone break into the 13's and prove it. If I had an n/a I'd try it. I don't think my GSL-SE qualifies though. Just build a new manifold with the right specs. Its easy to design! When you port an n/a engine you shift the power peak down slightly in the rpm range. The larger and crazier the porting gets, the lower the rpm that the power peak occurs. Just get rid of the stock manifold.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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My buddy Chris is down for it. If there's anything holding him back, it will be his ports. He got a SMALL streetport done.

I still think I can do it w/ 95% of the N/A mods, an ungodly portjob, and an S-AFC... we'll just see.
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