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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Brake Pads.

Anyone here use Hawk pads?

I am looking for a pad upgrade that has very good bite and has a somewhat normal pad life.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Car will be in auto X and track events and also daily driven.

Thanks.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Same pads that I will be running this year. DD and track.

A friend has them and they bite really hard. Very nice pads and they seem to be holding up preety good. They won't last as long as an OEM replacement though.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Hawk is a brake pad manufacturer, they make many different types of pads, each different from the last. BE MORE SPECIFIC!

I've used HP+'s and they're not that great for DD'ing, as they can be noisy and are dusty, and they won't stand up to hard lapping like a real race pad will. So they're a jack of all trades, master of none type, as are all dual use pads.

The best pads for the street are street pads, the best for the track are race pads. Get two sets.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Hawk HPs are supposed to be VERY nice pads, though I've never had personal experience with them. My buddy has a Focus ZX3, and he swears by them for stopping power.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MmSadda
Hawk HPs are supposed to be VERY nice pads, though I've never had personal experience with them. My buddy has a Focus ZX3, and he swears by them for stopping power.
I have also heard about these hawk pads, supposed to be of high quality. hmm I might have to invest in some
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 07:42 AM
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I use Centric Ceramics for my dd's and my 7 goes on the track, auto X and on the road.. great bite, no pedal fade, no dust and they are easy on the discs..
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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i have to disagree, i just got a set of HPS pads and i hated them. the cold bite sucked and they were incredibly noisy. i had brand new rotors front and rear, hawk HPS front and rear. i just bought some oem pads since i needed the hardware kit and the bite when cold is considerably better in my opinion. i have to say once the hawks heat up a bit they do grab ok. i thought i might have gotten the HP+'s by accident but that was not the case.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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I've read many, many threads about just this from people who've tried a half dozen different pads for track and street, and inveitably NONE of them are good for both, they're only ever merely competent at both.

Do yourself a favour, get track pads for the track, street pads for the street. Street and dual duty pads WILL NOT SURVIVE on track if you've got decent tires and more than novice skill. This is worse if you're on a brake intensive track, have more weight or more power than stock. Personally I don't see the point in using up expensive pads on the street when cheap, normal pads are more than enough. Changing pads is not tough.

Some like Carbotech XP8 or XP10 for dual use, as apparently they're the best of all the dual use capable pads, but still, they won't be as good as street pads for the street and track pads for the track.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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+1 Black91n/a

It takes ~1 hour to swap pads and rotors. Your street pads and rotors will last much longer, and you can run hardcore pads at the track. NAPA sells 4 rotors for <$100.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
I've read many, many threads about just this from people who've tried a half dozen different pads for track and street, and inveitably NONE of them are good for both, they're only ever merely competent at both.

Do yourself a favour, get track pads for the track, street pads for the street. Street and dual duty pads WILL NOT SURVIVE on track if you've got decent tires and more than novice skill. This is worse if you're on a brake intensive track, have more weight or more power than stock. Personally I don't see the point in using up expensive pads on the street when cheap, normal pads are more than enough. Changing pads is not tough.

Some like Carbotech XP8 or XP10 for dual use, as apparently they're the best of all the dual use capable pads, but still, they won't be as good as street pads for the street and track pads for the track.
I agree completley!
It might sound like a hassle changing your pads etc over for a single track day but it will be well worth it!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Yep, I've swapped all 4 pads and rotors in a parking lot before. Not fun, but it doesn't take that long and it's worth it not to have to deal with the squealing and dusting of track worthy pads on the street (everyone staring at you as you squeal your way to a stop), or not having to deal with fade or extreme pad wear on track due to running pads that really aren't up to the challenge. Track days are expensive, don't let your cheapness of not spending a little more on a set of race pads and a seperate set of rotors ruin your weekend.

I've driven around HP+ street/track and Porterfield R4 race pads before (street driven to and from track days) and I don't see why anyone would want a track worthy pad on the street. I mean regular, quiet, low dust street pads are more than enough for driving around on (if you're fading them, you're driving too fast, these are public roads I'm talking about after all), they're much cheaper, will last longer and won't chew through your rotors, so there's no need to suffer through the drawbacks of the semi-track pads.

Besides, if you swap back and forth then you'll always be able to have a backup set at the track with you just in case, at least just to get you home.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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I wont use the hawk pads they are to rough on the rotors...

like I said the centric ceramics are great for on and off the track they feel good and they are easy on the discs
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