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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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brake pad install on 86 GXL 5 lug

is this any different from changing pads on any other disk brake setup on another car?

whats involved herE?
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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from the FAQ for FC sticky thread at the top of the 2nd gen RX-7 section:
I don't want to buy a shop manual for my car, is there a place where I can still find out the information from one
Shop manuals for both series can be found on-line at:

http://www.cochran-racing.com/FSM/index.html
http://slackerware.dynu.com/fsm/
http://208.62.166.66:82/guest/shop_manuals/
or (86-88)
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factor...nual/1986_1988/
and (89-91)
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factor...nual/1989_1991/
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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i know about these.. i was just looking for some tips.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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it's brakes dood, rx7's aren't anything special when it comes to that.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Remember the rear calipers have to be compressed by screwing them in not just by compressing them
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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see thats what im talkin about
what do i need to compress/screw in?
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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The brake pistons on the rear calipers are screwed in. They make a special tool for it, or you can use needle nose pliers.

This is one aspect where the FSM tells you EVERYTHING you need to know. There's not many tricks here.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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i looked through the FSM.. didn't help much at all.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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doesn't help someone who hasn't done it before... im sure to someone who has seen all the parts up close and personal it may meen something
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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I changed the front ones on my 1986 GXL last summer, it was real easy, if i remember right you shouldn't have to take off the calipers to remove the pads. Once the pins that run threw the capliper and the pads are removed, the pads should slide out, that is after you release some of the pressure on the pads. I just usually use a small C-clamp the compress the pistons in the caliper, my had four pistons per caliper, two on each side. I haven't changed my rears yet Maybe I will this weekend, then I could tell you more.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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yeah keep in touch


as for the brake components, i think its gonna have to be something i figure out as i go.. seems that i will know what everyone is talking about when i have the tire off..

anyways, as far as tools go. i will need...

sockets, wrenches, needle nose pliers, and a c clamp? ---- thats all the tools i will need for a front/rear brake pad change?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 03:30 AM
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You should also use brake clean it never hurts and when you go to screw in the back one you might have to put a little pressure on it and make sure the E brake is off i didnt do that and they didnt wanna turn at all. Hope that helps some
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Also you might want to have some penetrating oil around, the pins in the front calipers can be a bitch to get out. And deffinetly use some brakecleaner on all the parts after you assemble themall to get and dirt oil or grease off, even oil from your skin is bad for brake pads
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by foild
i looked through the FSM.. didn't help much at all.
BS. The brake pad replacement procedure is quite clearly laid out in the FSM.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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not when you dont know HOW to compress a piston.

ive never seen what they are talking about in the FSM, so its hard to relate.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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buy a haynes, man those things help for noobs like me and you, they got pretty pics...
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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awsome.. i was planning on doing that
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by foild
ive never seen what they are talking about in the FSM, so its hard to relate.
Probably because you looked in the S4 FSM. If you look in the S5 FSM you'll see the brakes are basically identical to S4 but the info and instructions are much clearer and easier to understand and the pictures are of a higher quality.

As a general piece of advice, you should download and read both S4 and S5 FSM's if you need particular info. 70-80% of the car is identical between models but the S5 FSM is almost always more helpful.

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by drft_180sx
buy a haynes, man those things help for noobs like me and you, they got pretty pics...

Yeah, the Haynes manuals are like the "for Dummies" books, just follow what it says and you cant go wrong. Besides the GXL brakes are the easiest brake job I have ever done. The 4-piston fronts can be recessed by prying on the old pads with a screwdriver and then the pads just slip in and out when you take the pins out. The rears are easy too all you have to do is take some beefy needlenose pliers and "screw" the pistons back into the caliper. Its a million times easier than doing the calipers on my old '78 Ford Ranchero. Get the Haynes.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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thanks,

im gonna go with HAWK HPS pads, front and rear.

im lookin on the website, and the compatability, and i dont see anything with 86-88 NA with adjustable suspension, only with "normal suspension"

my car has those little buttons in the center console for "auto" or "sport" for suspension settings, doesn't that meen i have adjustable suspension, or is that just considered "normal"

thanks alot.
cam
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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just wanted to verify something:

i need new front pads, and well, the bank says i can only afford front's "
so, can i replace only the fronts with Hawk HPS, and leave the rear (good conditon so far) stock??
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Originally Posted by foild
just wanted to verify something:

i need new front pads, and well, the bank says i can only afford front's "
so, can i replace only the fronts with Hawk HPS, and leave the rear (good conditon so far) stock??
I'm in the same boat but I just need rears and not fronts. Can somebody shed some light on this?
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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if you change pads, you need to change all the pads on that axle (front axle or rear axle).

So if you are changing the right front, you must change the left front as well. You do not need to change the rears if you are just doing the front and Visa versa... just the pads on the same axle.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Buy a Haynes manual. It'll be the best purchase of your life, I promise.

Oh, and for what it's worth, changing the brake pads on the front is as easy as possible. You need to take out two pins, two shafts, and two springs on each side, then you can remove the pad. You don't even need to remove or disassemble the caliper in any way.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
if you change pads, you need to change all the pads on that axle (front axle or rear axle).

So if you are changing the right front, you must change the left front as well. You do not need to change the rears if you are just doing the front and Visa versa... just the pads on the same axle.
Thanks. I was indeed referring to the whole axle, but good clarification in general.

Time for some Hawk HPS's. I'll probably just do the front at the same time if they look like they're anywhere near replacing. Now to check my bank...
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