One of my friends was complaining because she has a shitty Ford Escort getting half the mileage of my RX-7.

 

I agree with ya. Life is awhole lot easier when you have a good DD. My GF has a BONE STOCK 200sx that gets 28 MPG. We do almost ALL our driving in it. Only mods are tires store brand 15' rims than came on it when she bought it, the k&n and the tunes.

 

Hey, auto verts aren’t all that bad. You just got to spend a little extra cash to make them good... And then some more to make it a turbo manual vert and your all set

 

stock front struts with Tein s-Tech springs and hyperflex polyurethane bushing kit, KYB AGX in the rear and some decent tires. the setup is fairly cheap and makes the car feel 100 times better and is the best setup you can get for smoothness while gaining some performance as well aside from spending thousands and thousands of dollars.

 

If you want a good ride and handling, eibach progressives are prob your best bet. Illumina's or KYB AGX's are good reasonably priced struts, plus the AGX's are adjustable.

As for stiff suspentions, mine is right up there. Its got AGX's on full stiff with GC coilover using Eibach non-progressive springs (can't find rate). You can push and shove on it all you want, and it doesnt budge. Theres no body roll and it doesn't even have a rear sway bar on it.

 

I have a completely stock Scion tC that I drive daily, and a TII that I play with. I'd say the tC would give the ole N/A rx7 a run for his money....no bashing, but N/A's were never meant for drag racing.

 

What does your N/A 7 run in the 1/4? I'd say my tC could keep up just fine....like it is, completely stock from the factory. If ya'll thought I was "bashing" rx7's, you're completely wrong. I love the rotary. I love my rotary.

Oh, and to the idiot that stated that there are n/a 7's that run as fast as my turbo 7.....good luck doing that with the same amount of $$$ as I spent to get mine to the 13's. :P

 

the AGX and illuminas are nice struts but even on low they seem a bit rigid, i have ridden in some FCs with similar setups to mine but have those struts on the front but i still prefer my old stockers and they handle just as well if you throw the car into a hairpin since it is 1.5" lower in the front now.

 

I think he meant that his NA could keep up with a stock turbo, which is true, especially if its older. My NA with 200k could keep up with a stock turbo with 75k. Also, I've seen some damn fast Scions before. Just look at project tC in SCC.

 

HAHA yeah right, president of the local miata club dyno'ed a tc with 1200 miles on it a month or 2 back.....made 98 RWHP stock. 100 with the airfilter removed. Came back with a cat back and made 109RWHP on the rotary releibility and racings' dyno. A 1982 12a auto with 190,000+ miles made the same 98 RWHP the same day. So find yourself a 1st gen auto, and try your luck.

 

Whoa, the president of the miata club converted the tC to RWD to get those RWHP numbers?


K. Back ON topic.

 

They come default with 350LB-front and 250LB-rear rates for the FC Ground Control kit...

 

Thanks, where'd you find that?

 

Busted.....it was FWD DUH

 

I had a set before I got my HKS setup...

 

I have to agree with Karack. That sounds like a decent setup. I have Tokico Blues, Eibach springs, & Suss Tech sway bars. I have to tell ya, it is stiff as a mother fker. I also have JIC FLT A2's that I am not so sure I want to put on due to the current ride I get on these damn freeways!

 

interesting setup, ive never heard of keeping the front stock struts while aftermarket in the rear. is that better for gripping as well as the smoother ride?

 

yep, i autocross it and drive rather aggressively on the street and to tell the truth i have yet to have it understeer yet it still has between a stock ride and a track feel.

the drop is almost perfect for the camber, it cambers the tires in just enough to not wear them too aggressively for street driving but adds quite a bit of grip in the front.

my struts were in fair condition, obviously i wouldn't recommend it for blown out front struts but the stockers aren't as bad as most people make them out to be. most of the problem is the rears, they tend to blow out regularly.

 

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Good stuff.

 

I am going to part with my JIC's, and my Tokico Blues for some KYB adj. as well my aftermarket rear sway for a stocker.

 

I got a few stock sway bars... What series we talkin here?

 

There is a guy on 3si who converted his 3kgt vr-4 to FWD (at high power one of his transfer cases was getting destroyed) who just ran 10.1 @ 140.31 and cut a 1.5 60' time.

That's not normal FWD power, but then again blanket statements are always wrong now aren't they?

 

thats good and all, but a rwd with equal weight and power would have been faster.

now how about back to the topic of the thread

 

Ohlins coilovers should do the trick:

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Works out to over $2700 before shipping, duty, etc.

Seriously though, replace the bushings with polyeurethane, get some performance shocks (Koni Yellows are about the best stock replacements), or get some coilovers and skip the next 2 steps, get some stiffer springs or ground control coilovers (400lb/in front and 275lb/in rear should be good), get camber plates, get rear camber adjuster, get some stiffer sways and better endlinks, get a performance alignment (stock all that's adjustable is toe, so having it aligned when stock is relatively meaningless), get it corner balanced and get sticky tires. Just because you have new Toyos (what kind?) doesn't mean that you've got good tires. One of the best (stickyest) street tires is the Falken Azenis RT-615.

Good shocks are critical to having good ride comfort and good handling, and good tires have a greater impact on steady state cornering ability than a suspension does (same alignment).

 

i have never ridden in a car with coilovers that i liked for street driving, they are all just too rigid.

i have a set of HKS drag coilovers i just picked up that i plan on installing when i park my car in the garage and get a good DD because i know i will not want to drive it on the street much anymore after i install them.