cmanns

So currently my fc handles pretty damn good, if I drive like an idiot going left and right and swinging corners hard thats the only time I can really get it to slide much at all.

Currently the front tires squeal more then the real, I have all stock rims

I think my tires are 205/15/50s, with the smaller sidewalls then stock it should be handling a tad better, but isnt 205 small width?

I was thinking of getting some wider rims in the future, like 215 front and 215 rear since it's a n/a I don't need gigantic tires, I think the handling limitation currently is

1) My front right camber is off, and yes you can slightly adjust it stock, I noticed on left turns my tires squeal much more, left and right feels different so I'm pretty sure the camber is totally opposite as my dad told me he set it, no big deal yet

2) The front tires arnt wide

Anything else thats recomended to make the fc handle better? no I don't do that stupid drifting crap, I want it to be tight feeling, the DTSS I think I can feel it and I do not like it at all, is this what its like

Your cornering, once the corner gets HARD like you hit a bump while cornering, the rear end seems to just slide over a few inches, but its not loosing grip feeling, just the suspension sways outward, is this that DTSS crap? The corners I notice is most on are going very fast like 60+ also when I go left and right alot I notice the rear starts going outward more and more, it doesnt feel right.

Anyways the rest of my suspension is stock, doesnt feel like I need new shocks and such but maybe its also a good idea.

thank you

Black Knight RX7 FC3S

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have you changed the suspension bushing?
I mean the car is about 18 years old. The bushings in the camber links for the rear and the arms in the front are probably worn out to where itll give movement when you turn hard.
Those worn out bushings will also throw the alignment way off. If the bushings on the left side is worn out more then the right side then it wont be as stiff and you will understeer, though many factors can play into it though.

What tires you have on?
Also, when you mean stock suspension, you mean the original?
If so then DAMN. Those springs are probably sagging alot when under load.

but like I said before, alot of factors are involved, you basically have to check everything lol

jackhild59

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What are your goals? If it is to have an excellent handling daily driver here are my thoughts.

When the FC was new it was one of the best handling cars in the world. Very few cars at any price could keep up in the twisties. Before you start *upgrading* it, you should consider restoring it to semi-original.

First, you should consider that shocks are shot. Bushings may be worn and springs sagging.

Replace your shocks with at *least* Tokico blues. Adjustable shocks like KYB AGX or Tokico Illuminas are nice, but not necessary to improve your car.

Install a set of new springs at the same time. DON'T go for the deepest drop. Eibach prokits or Racing Beat are highly regarded, yeilding a very slight drop over sagging OEM springs. The Eibachs are supposed to drop +/- .8". I got a drop of 5/8"(.625") on my 90 vert. Is it low? Kinda. Is it noticeable? Yes. They also are much less harsh than my OEM springs, but are also stiffer.

You don't want to go to NTB or any of those types of chains where they have the least experienced, cheapest help available. No offense, but these guys (even if they know better) are required to 'turn the lights green' on the alignment machine. This is a minimal alignment. Your car will go straight and your tires won't wear, but there is no assurance that your car will handle the way Mazda intended.

Find an old-school frame/front end shop for a *REAL* alignment. Ask them questions to determine their approach to alignments.

Before I got my alignment, I thought my car handled great. I just wanted to be sure that my tires didn't wear after adding the lowering springs. When I got my alignment, they looked for bent pieces, worn bushings, sloppy bearings etc. Then, they put the car as close as possible to the manufactures specs. The owner of the shop told me that his goal was to align the car *perfectly to specs*. As a side note, I thought he was full of crap at this point. My car was in the green on every point except one before they touched it.

I was amazed. The handling on the car 'woke up'. There was a night and day difference in the way the car handled after the alignment.

Cost? $59 Same as at the chain shops.

Tires/wheels: Get a set of S5 TII rims if you are on a budget. You can go to 215/50/16 with out changes. I have 225/50/16 and had to add longer wheel studs and a 5mm spacer to the front. I also get some fender rub on the front. I should roll the fenders, but haven't yet. 215 would fit fine.

Don't fall into the trap of removing the DTSS just because all the boyracers tell you to, unless you are tracking the car and are an EXPERT driver. For the less than expert driver (most of us) in less than controlled conditions (anytime you are on the street) the DTSS is faster and more controlled.

cmanns

Uh yeah my goal is best overall handling, I don't plan to every touch a track or autox till I tranny swap the car and do a 6port turbo...

meh it might be sagging a bit but its pretty stiff, yeah the whole suspension is original, the car just hit 80k miles so it probably does need the bushings and all changed, I don't know if I want to keep the dtss though I think I feel it and I just do not like, then again it might be another factor

I got some falken aziens or something, theyre like touring tires on the outside and the inside looks like those grippy tires, they grip alight the sidewalls feel alittle soft and seem to roll over for being so close to the rim

Rx7TyreBurna

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New springs and shocks.

I have KYB AGX and RB springs. Great handling.

I also don't suggest racing quick around corners on normal streets. Try AutoX. It is a lot of fun, and you don't need to make insane power to be good. It's a lot about driver and handling. Most tracks you won't see over 40-50 MPH. You will sit in 2nd and 3rd gear the whole time.

And, once you AutoX, you will realize that racing in the streets is lame. Don't you guys worry about crashing your babies? (car that is) No matter how good you are, there is always some dumb lady in her yukon talking on the cell phone, and going through a corner half in your lane.

Be safe. We need more Rx-7's down at the track. Not dead.

cmanns

Oh I don't race on residential streets, I'll take myself alone to a dead roads that ive gone to over the years though.

cmanns

So we were at a party down on this road, very popular in-town, but where the party was about 25miles into the road, very skinny bumpy fun road thats deserted at night

So we were fallowing our friends in a ford suv, probably a 07 expedition, they were going about 40-50, most of the road is 35 and 25mph "turns" which some you gotta go 20 on, some you can go 40 on, quite weird they just mark all corners 25... seriously one of the corners I took 30 and in the fc most corners you can take 50 no problem, yet these turns would push it I wonder if theres a lot of accidents, one of my friends I was fallowing in a 86 accord went into the other lane going 30 in one of the 25mph turns even :|

The FC kept up no problem like expected but twice I went out of control and almost crashed yet the suv didn't even swerve

It was a slight right, straight, left, then right all rather quickly. The slight left then final right had bumps/dips in the road then right as I came out the rear end (I went through this twice in a row) just lost it.

What would cause that? maybe it bottomed out and the rear camber was too negative to keep grip? Once I slammed the brakes for a second or two everything was fine but I literally started sliding like a drift, which isnt my thing to do

I hope I gave enough details, I kept thinking about this

Rx7 light weight with old suspension parts, so something is bad most likely (Unless light weight cars always have issues on bumpy roads? I haven't spiritually driven any other sports cars...) the suv is very heavy, so it's body wouldnt lift much after the bumps, the suspension probably traveled less too.