AWD conversion.......
11-19-05, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrh
seriously..
I bet none of you can give me 5 reasons why buying a DSM wouldn't be 1000 times easier, and the end result work better.
and I hate dsm's!
I bet none of you can give me 5 reasons why buying a DSM wouldn't be 1000 times easier, and the end result work better.
and I hate dsm's!
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Because a DSM is not an RX-7. Nor does it have a rotary engine. Also it's very, very ugly.
+1 on dissing the chick car
11-19-05, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Nor does it have a rotary engine. Also it's very, very ugly.
You'd be able to do this in a subaru pretty damn easily, with how short that engine is, coupled with it's location and drivetrain configuration. But then again, people are more for 'unique' than common sense lately.
11-19-05, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
You'd be able to do this in a subaru pretty damn easily, with how short that engine is, coupled with it's location and drivetrain configuration. But then again, people are more for 'unique' than common sense lately.
You'd end up putting the Impreza floor pan/drivtrain under the RX-7 shell after the floor, drivetrain and suspension are removed. The Imprezza pan and rear driveshaft would have to be shortened a bit, but this is probably the easiest way to get an AWD FC.
11-19-05, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRaceJosh
I think you just hit upon something here. Take a wrecked/rolled Impreza, rebody it with the RX-7 sheet metal and swap in the 13B.
You'd end up putting the Impreza floor pan/drivtrain under the RX-7 shell after the floor, drivetrain and suspension are removed. The Imprezza pan and rear driveshaft would have to be shortened a bit, but this is probably the easiest way to get an AWD FC.
You'd end up putting the Impreza floor pan/drivtrain under the RX-7 shell after the floor, drivetrain and suspension are removed. The Imprezza pan and rear driveshaft would have to be shortened a bit, but this is probably the easiest way to get an AWD FC.
01-14-06, 04:50 PM
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Damn this thread is all over the place.
I feel bad for Aaron
LOL
ok here's another tired saying
Drag racing is for fast cars
Auto-cross is for fast drivers
|M|
I feel bad for Aaron
LOL
Originally Posted by afgmoto1978
...
Here's a flame...drag racing is only for people who don't know how to drive, but still want to go fast.
Here's a flame...drag racing is only for people who don't know how to drive, but still want to go fast.
Drag racing is for fast cars
Auto-cross is for fast drivers
|M|
01-14-06, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRaceJosh
I think you just hit upon something here. Take a wrecked/rolled Impreza, rebody it with the RX-7 sheet metal and swap in the 13B.
You'd end up putting the Impreza floor pan/drivtrain under the RX-7 shell after the floor, drivetrain and suspension are removed. The Imprezza pan and rear driveshaft would have to be shortened a bit, but this is probably the easiest way to get an AWD FC.
You'd end up putting the Impreza floor pan/drivtrain under the RX-7 shell after the floor, drivetrain and suspension are removed. The Imprezza pan and rear driveshaft would have to be shortened a bit, but this is probably the easiest way to get an AWD FC.
02-04-06, 02:00 AM
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some of us do build cars for fun
its amazing because i never bring up ideas like this here because of close minded loosers with no imagination .
i know the original poster
he will do it for the **** of it
and we will have more fun building cars like this and breaking them
and laughing about it
and how much cash we spent on a worthless pile
but you know what
it was, is ,and always will be a RX-7
and should be fun it will be fun
just not for the flamers
be cool
sorry i cant type, never will
i know the original poster
he will do it for the **** of it
and we will have more fun building cars like this and breaking them
and laughing about it
and how much cash we spent on a worthless pile
but you know what
it was, is ,and always will be a RX-7
and should be fun it will be fun
just not for the flamers
be cool
sorry i cant type, never will
02-04-06, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by westler91
Lets bet that your website will crash in less than three days
Originally Posted by SJ_chameleon
I just wanted to point out that no one has even mentioned that you lose more power through a 4WD drivetrain than a RWD.
02-04-06, 02:34 AM
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Hey cool dude, how far is the project coming along? I was wondering how he planned on getting around the oil pan with a driveshaft. I was thinking maybe shortening up the pan, and add a separate resevoir to hold the oil lost. Of course this would add to the things needing to be fabbed up, but it is an idea.
peace
peace
02-04-06, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
And how did this post manage to slip through the cracks of deletion? Sounds like a direct threat to me...
Actually Parasitie mentioned it already when he stated that an N/A wouldn't have the power to move the hulking lead sled...
Actually Parasitie mentioned it already when he stated that an N/A wouldn't have the power to move the hulking lead sled...
02-04-06, 03:11 AM
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I don't think it's as much a matter of curb weight, as it is weight distribution. There's not much you can remove from the FC's already questionably flexible front end. You'd probably be forced to add weight to the rear of the car, which although could prove effective, it's still adding more weight to a car you're already adding more weight to. And then trying to turn the wheels with a 13B N/A is just rediculous. I would suggest doing a little more research and development before spouting off "ideas" and whatnot. I mean I'm not trying to flame here, because that's just not really my style, but I think if you engineered some innovative ways of overcoming these major obstacles, you might be met with a better response from all the "haters"...
You see, we don't hate new ideas. We just absolutely loathe seeing the same pipe dream "I'm building an AWD FC" threads pop up every couple months or so in this section, with people showing alot of enthusiasm, yet not producing any results. It would be like someone offering a group buy on say a custom carbon fiber part for instance. They get everyone all worked up and then never produce a product. How many times would you sign up for the group buy? I personally think it's a case of the "look at me" syndrome. I guess people have to feel like they are important, which isn't always bad, but it can prove frustrating for the old timers...
Aside from that, good luck to you, and happy rotoring!
That is all...
You see, we don't hate new ideas. We just absolutely loathe seeing the same pipe dream "I'm building an AWD FC" threads pop up every couple months or so in this section, with people showing alot of enthusiasm, yet not producing any results. It would be like someone offering a group buy on say a custom carbon fiber part for instance. They get everyone all worked up and then never produce a product. How many times would you sign up for the group buy? I personally think it's a case of the "look at me" syndrome. I guess people have to feel like they are important, which isn't always bad, but it can prove frustrating for the old timers...
Aside from that, good luck to you, and happy rotoring!
That is all...
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02-04-06, 03:33 AM
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02-04-06, 02:30 PM
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havent seen that he has started
im building a 2 wd rally car now out of a FC
we are both building too many cars at a time
i had a miata i took off road alot
with rally tires
so he built one after i sold mine
but he went way past what i did and won some rally cross evets
so i started a FC rally car for rally america style events 2wd na gxl
will be turbo running gear the springs and struts seem to be the mystery to me
but i see more info everytime i look
but dosent anyone make a rally 7 FC package that lifts the car 2 inches or so
anyway he will do it just to one up me
besides you never had so much fun as a sports car going up a creek bottom in a mountian canyon . its so intense . it seems as though you are going 100 mph and you look down and you are going 42 mph throwing rocks 50 feet back and bouncing thru the motorcycle ruts .
as far as power i cant belive you guys doubt the mighty 13b
im ashamed at the lack of optimisum
you think 250 hp is enough
how much is a full sized ford or chevy 275 maybe
cant we get a dependable 250 na hp ????
i do
and how do you think innovation comes about
someone with too much time and money makes one
then its copied a few times
and then there is a kit for it
you think felix wankel would listen to a bunch of flamers
if he did you would be driving a 4 banger like everyone else
and i cant speek for the world but im not like anyone else
so i build things you would not
things some flamers dont have the courage to do
to go out on unproven groung and develope somthing new
and you know what who cares if it works
its about doing something
something totally sick
and having fun
and it wont be the first one either
and some pics of what started all this
"MIATA MIATA"
150 mile stock miata with zero options
we are both building too many cars at a time
i had a miata i took off road alot
with rally tires
so he built one after i sold mine
but he went way past what i did and won some rally cross evets
so i started a FC rally car for rally america style events 2wd na gxl
will be turbo running gear the springs and struts seem to be the mystery to me
but i see more info everytime i look
but dosent anyone make a rally 7 FC package that lifts the car 2 inches or so
anyway he will do it just to one up me
besides you never had so much fun as a sports car going up a creek bottom in a mountian canyon . its so intense . it seems as though you are going 100 mph and you look down and you are going 42 mph throwing rocks 50 feet back and bouncing thru the motorcycle ruts .
as far as power i cant belive you guys doubt the mighty 13b
im ashamed at the lack of optimisum
you think 250 hp is enough
how much is a full sized ford or chevy 275 maybe
cant we get a dependable 250 na hp ????
i do
and how do you think innovation comes about
someone with too much time and money makes one
then its copied a few times
and then there is a kit for it
you think felix wankel would listen to a bunch of flamers
if he did you would be driving a 4 banger like everyone else
and i cant speek for the world but im not like anyone else
so i build things you would not
things some flamers dont have the courage to do
to go out on unproven groung and develope somthing new
and you know what who cares if it works
its about doing something
something totally sick
and having fun
and it wont be the first one either
and some pics of what started all this
"MIATA MIATA"
150 mile stock miata with zero options
02-04-06, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
I don't think it's as much a matter of curb weight, as it is weight distribution. There's not much you can remove from the FC's already questionably flexible front end. You'd probably be forced to add weight to the rear of the car, which although could prove effective, it's still adding more weight to a car you're already adding more weight to. And then trying to turn the wheels with a 13B N/A is just rediculous. I would suggest doing a little more research and development before spouting off "ideas" and whatnot. I mean I'm not trying to flame here, because that's just not really my style, but I think if you engineered some innovative ways of overcoming these major obstacles, you might be met with a better response from all the "haters"...
You see, we don't hate new ideas. We just absolutely loathe seeing the same pipe dream "I'm building an AWD FC" threads pop up every couple months or so in this section, with people showing alot of enthusiasm, yet not producing any results. It would be like someone offering a group buy on say a custom carbon fiber part for instance. They get everyone all worked up and then never produce a product. How many times would you sign up for the group buy? I personally think it's a case of the "look at me" syndrome. I guess people have to feel like they are important, which isn't always bad, but it can prove frustrating for the old timers...
Aside from that, good luck to you, and happy rotoring!
That is all...
You see, we don't hate new ideas. We just absolutely loathe seeing the same pipe dream "I'm building an AWD FC" threads pop up every couple months or so in this section, with people showing alot of enthusiasm, yet not producing any results. It would be like someone offering a group buy on say a custom carbon fiber part for instance. They get everyone all worked up and then never produce a product. How many times would you sign up for the group buy? I personally think it's a case of the "look at me" syndrome. I guess people have to feel like they are important, which isn't always bad, but it can prove frustrating for the old timers...
Aside from that, good luck to you, and happy rotoring!
That is all...
if you dont reaserch it and ask questions how do you know if its something you can or even want to do he said he searched for any info here
02-04-06, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
There have fun with it!
lolah reminds me of home
sweet home alabama
they will put anything on a bronco or blazer
lol
i love it
would not build it but its great
02-04-06, 02:43 PM
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I think they put the engine as far forward as poissble and come out the back into some kind of transaxle or something.
Originally Posted by RETed
Do you have proof of this?
I find this hard to believe since Mitsubishis are primarily FWD platforms, and then start shifting power to the rear wheels.
This means the 13BT had to have been mounted sideways???
-Ted
I find this hard to believe since Mitsubishis are primarily FWD platforms, and then start shifting power to the rear wheels.
This means the 13BT had to have been mounted sideways???
-Ted
02-04-06, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cooldude
a dependable 250 na hp
Originally Posted by cooldude
if you dont reaserch it and ask questions how do you know if its something you can or even want to do he said he searched for any info here
02-04-06, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
Not happening... Unless you go with MONSTER ports, which greatly reduce dependablity...
02-04-06, 03:42 PM
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A 13B already has peripheral exhaust ports. Adding a second peripheral intake port will be inconsequential to reliability as long as you don't rev the **** out of it.
02-04-06, 04:35 PM
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With a peripheral port, the problem lies in the fact that it's nearly undrivable without revving the **** out of it... Not exactly something you'll wanna be driving around town... I mean hey if you're looking to build a full race prepped vehicle that never sees the road, by all means go PP and try your hand at AWD... Just not something that's practical... If he's looking for reliability, he's looking in the wrong direction...
02-04-06, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
With a peripheral port, the problem lies in the fact that it's nearly undrivable without revving the **** out of it... Not exactly something you'll wanna be driving around town... I mean hey if you're looking to build a full race prepped vehicle that never sees the road, by all means go PP and try your hand at AWD... Just not something that's practical... If he's looking for reliability, he's looking in the wrong direction...
And if you build the engine properly with 3 window bearings, deep groove rotor bearings, hardened stationary gears, balanced rotors and such you should be able to rev the **** out of it and not worry too much.