are they worth the money and are they good replacements? i looking to run about 10 psi are they good for that?


thanks alot

 

they are the Best hands down

 

good products, big $$

 

Are you guys talking about ARC TMIC? I just bought one from a member here for a good price. Up to what power level is it good for?? I was kinda curious how good it really was. I did a search for it and then came up with lots of info, but couldn't find the exact info I wanted. I just wanna know at what psi/hp level I need to keep my car at in order to be safe.

 

tmic and fmic are all good but of course fmic is the best one they also have the newer v-mount setups which give you the best of radiator and intercooler cooling

www.rotaryextreme.com/vmount.html

 

An upgraded TMIC is a waste of time, because it doesn't fix the stock IC's problem, which is location not airflow.

 

That's why I've always stayed away from them. But I'm really interested in staying with the tmic setup for the decreased lag. Is there ANY benefit from a 3row tmic like the ARC or the REAmemiya? Or is it all just speculation because nobody's ever tried one out and tested it with intake charge temps?

Steve

 

three row intercoolers require great amount of forced air what good is it if only the first two row get tthe proper air


the scoop on the fc is not big enough and i haven't seen an aftermarket hood with a design good enough to force the correct amount trough three rows the fmic is fully exposed air can be easyly forced into three rows of cooling

 

IIRC in the greddy 2 row FMIC vspec threads they said that boost response did not suffer at all and actually increased. Are boost response and lag two different things or did one of us just use the wrong term?

 

Poor design and installation increases lag, not long pipes. As long as the pipes and core are sized correctly lag won't be a problem. Remember, cool air improves boost response.

Good boost response = no lag. Bad boost response = lag.

 

Ok, getting a little off topic now, but why didn't mazda go with a non tmic setup in the first place? Not neccessarily a front mount, but maybe a set up like the FD has? Just curious.

Steve

 

because the stock IC is fine for stock cars

 

Cheaper cost also. It's the piping that is expensive.

 

Mazda's reasons were most likely to do with cost and simplicity. That still doesn't make it a good location. Even mounting the stock IC out front is a good improvement. The core flows well, it just suffers terribly from heat-soak.

 

So is it a bad idea to tune my car to 14-15psi with the ARC TMIC? I have an upgraded turbo but I don't know the spec of it. It made 285rwhp at 10psi. Should I just tune it to around 12psi?

 

Go with a proper FMIC setup. Find a cheap used intercooler on ebay(volvo etc), greddy universal fmic piping kit(http://www.turboimports.com/gredun50inpi.html), and higgi's adapter.

 

You might also want to look into the 3000gt VR4 dual intercoolers they are cost efficiate and work well linked together they also lower lag

they're good for about 350hp 18lb. of boost

trust me on this one

 

could put the ARC in a front mount position...i've seen what you're talking about, i think you could make it work.

although for the trouble, a volvo or saab or npr would work better.

 

Imagine being stuck in traffic or sitting at the lights for a few minutes. The IC is absorbing all of the heat coming off the top of the engine, and could easily be 150-160degF. Something that's already hot cannot absorb much more heat! It's like not even having an IC there.

Now there's a break in the traffic or the light turns green and you floor it, and that 14-15psi creates super-hot air that is barely being cooled by the IC. The result is a lot less power and much greater chance of detonation.

 

I guess I'll tone it down a little and go with 12 psi then... I already have ARC TMIC on the way and don't feel like spending more money on FMIC setup.

 

too bad v mount kit is for FD only

 

Front-mount it yourself...

 

I don't have time/skills/money to do so... Maybe I'll do it later during summer break.