ItsNiceToBurnRice

i just ordered one, because my manifold is fucked and I want a quick, cheap replacement, so can you tell a difference? and how?

Erik

vosko's got one...you can PM him to get his opinion on it. i've been in his car...sounds good and performs good as well

ItsNiceToBurnRice

alright maine, ill do that

Bambam7

So.... Loud.... So...Very...Loud!!
Better top end though, to bad I'm deaf.

Felix Wankel

Cough up 60 more bones for an RB header

I love the chrome RB header on my FB much more that the POS Pacesetter one on my GXL. Especially when it was new and all the paint melted off. That sucked.

peejay

Damn I should just make an Anti-Pacesetter Rant Page

YES they suck, YES don't waste your money on them, YES buy the RB headers instead, YES the RB units are worth the extra $60!

BlackRx7

I'm with peejay, I have one myself had it for about 10 months and it all rusted up, also the flang on the pacecrapper in thinner so becareful with the studs on your rotor housing, I messd mine up get big washers..... Don't get pacesetter mufflers either I got them they such too, my car actually sound like a weed eater between 2-4k

ItsNiceToBurnRice

So the RB one is only $170 bucks? if this is true ill get a RB, and it comes with the gasket right?

peejay

I don't know about the gasket, but the POSetter header effectively doesn't come with one, they give you a little crummy thin paper one. You NEED a Mazda gasket. Heck one time my car was fuel starving badly, it wouldn't go over 35mph floored because it was running so lean (turned out to be seriously gunked up fuel lines and filters) and it actually BURNED OUT the Mazda gasket! Here's the funny part... 2 days later it was quiet again, it sealed itself up! Now that's a GOOD gasket.

Don't worry about rust. If you're worried about rust, don't get headers. All headers will rust, it's a fact of life. All headers will burn the paint off fairly quickly. WT's headers have NO paint on them at all, it never seemed to be a problem. (They're blue and purple colored now from running hot )

defylogik

sup dude.. i got a pacesetter headers... seems fine to me.. im local so if you wanna come see the car let me know!

scott

Cwaters

where is the RB headder $170?

Cory

NevadaLoneWolf

I can get a Pacesetter for $40, so I'm going w/that until I can get my $1400 full system....

rxspeed87

I'm the third owner of a RB header and pre-silener

the thing fit fine the flange has not warped at all. worked great
I would say go with RB easily
they are worth the extra money

Cwaters

WOW, that's a good price!
Can you pass allong the hook-up?

Cory

NCsublime

Here is the bottom line:

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

I have the pacesetter headers and although they are rusty looking, it's because they get so damn hot, and are NOT coated. If I would have paid to have them coated they would be fine. I have no complaints with them, although in the future I will go with a different brand. I didn't pay a lot for them, and they are doing fine for now, so how could I complain? For $60 extra, I would probably go with the RB headers as well, though. If I had to do it all over again, I would get mine coated, regardless of the brand name. . .

-Derek


P.S. Mine came with 3 gaskets (2 for installation and 1 extra). The two initially installed are doing fine, and the other is still in plastic. BTW-I've had them for almost two years.

787B

I hear they are OK, and i have ridden in a car that has them and it increases the loudness and sounds awesome! I ordered pacesetters but they are TAKING FOREVER TO GET HERE!!!!!

Maxthe7man

Stainless steel header, holds up better than the mild steel ones, no coating to worry about either, but they are pretty tinny sounding to..Max