Depends on what you think looks good. You can do it american with all kinds of smoke, lots of HP, and very little skill. Or you can kick it old school with stock or lil over stock hp and suspension, less angle and alot less smoke, and accually have to know what you are doing.

In other words, I HATE MASSIVE SMOKE SCREEN DRIFTS, you are not james bond trying to make a run from the KGB using gadgets

 

Uh...you...can't...be...serious...?

Try this...
This is how we do it down here...
http://www.superlapseries.com/drifts...dia/videos.htm


-Ted

 

Im more a fan of the FC drifting down that mountain. Damnit where is that link.

 

Those are some pretty nice vidsu guys in Hawaii know what ur doing. One question tho... WHERE ARE ALL THE 7'S!!!

 

In the end that doesnt matter... an rx7 turbo should at least squeal

I havent gone that far yet, except in my Little Tracer

 

Yeah, you gotta excuse us FC owners for lacking in this department.
There's another guy (Vance) that also posts on here that does go out there with his FC.
I was trying to get my finances in line before committing to a track car.
The 20B FC we're prepping kinda got lost in terms of direction cause the owner got kinda frustrated.
We almost got all the parts to build the 20B FC right this time, and then the damn track closes... :P

Hopefully, all this BS with the track gets cleared up, and they open it up or a new venue soon.
Street racing is just too dangerous for my old bones.


-Ted

 

lol. i have been considering using my other GSLSE as a purpose drift car (we have alot of options for tracks in adn around ohio actually) seeing it already hit something before and the front corner frame is bent (not reapireable) . so if i hit something else....eh.

 

all u guys are wierd who cares just go like 90 down the street e brake it and down shift you'll have fun


lmao

 

some of us like to not die lol

 

Haha I'm far from serious. I can't stand seeing that crap, but it's what happens out here :/ I must say I love the track way better than the streets. No worries just everyone going ***** out and having fun.

 

That's not my car.

And I would never run anything more then 1 degree of camber off and I'de have my toe at 0.

 

im runing a front and rear strut and tein front and rear

 

It's not powersliding when you're already going 30mph. Powersliding is turning the wheel a bit, revving the **** up, and popping the clutch, like the hillbillies do.

 

here in sac, the nearest track for drifting is in tracy, and its 75 dollars 1 drift day a week...

Drifting is ALL about seat time. And a decent setup.

I drift "on the streets" not in traffic, not when its dangeriouse. I generaly drift in commercial wharehouse areas, around 12am. theres NO cars, except for us who are out drifting, theres no houses for people to hear our tires, and if we hit a curb, its our own fault, its our repair bill, and yes, even frame damage is repairable..


now, if drifting is all about seat time, about how many hours a month are you going to get going to the track? not nearly enough. when we drift, we are usualy out for about 6 hours. untill sunrise. or when people start going to work.

We have what we call drift fee's - When the cops come, and give us tickets (wich is rare) its a drift fee, and let me tell you, you save money paying for tickets than you would if you were paying for track days everyday.

i think its stupid all these people saying its dumb to drift on the streets. its all a matter of commen sense. maybe im not rich enough to pay for gas + track fees.

look at all of the D1 drifters, look at all the japanese drifters, they ALL drifted on the streets to become at least decently good. ****, Drift king himself did it.


i think people dont like my car, cause i drift it with; cut springs, cheap tires, and a loud exhaust. but then again, i bet i drift a lot better than those people paying for their track time... cause i have SO much more seat time.

seat time > track time

 

cut springs ?? how do you do it >>>

 

Powersliding is when the front tires are not sliding.
Low speed "drifting" is actually power sliding.

Drifting is when you're also sliding the front tires, albiet not as much as the rears are sliding.


-Ted

 

That's why my front tires are going too. But I'll just buy some more used ones for uber cheap.

 

Okay, so how is it possible for someone to induce slide at 30mph, get extremely sideways through a 90 degree turn, and NOT have the front wheels slide? I'm not doing ******* donuts. I'm not powersliding. I assume you don't actually drift yourself. Ask any actual drifter, not some ******* kid in a 240, who doesn't know **** about ****, if drifting is possible at 30mph. You don't have to be going an insanely fast speed to drift. I'm not some dumb little kid who went out and saw tokyo drift and thinks he knows everything. Just because I don't have 1000+ posts on a forum doesn't mean I'm ignorant to this aspect. It means I'm out driving and practicing.

 

yeah ur right all the JAPANESE people learned on the streets...thats cuz in japan they dont give a **** the cops, IF they do care they'll just tell them to go home.....here ine cleveland atleast u will get RAPED if u get caught drifting.....cuz u gotta figure thats blowin a stop sign(in most cases), wreckless OP, no seatbelt, peeling tires, speeding.....they get you with ANYTHING they can.....

i dont give a **** myself though, ha...**** i be driftin all over...in the ghetto, in the suborbs, in industrial areas, in the country.....country is not so bad though cuz theres like no cops out there and nice weavy roads and wide open corners

 

first- SimplyComplex I agree with Ted- powersliding is the rear wheels sliding and the fronts not, typically this is called "power on oversteer". It is extremely common to induce a slide in the manner you describe ie: 30mph, rear end loose and front wheels not- just ask any V8 guy to demonstrate. This is also considered a "two wheel drift"- even back circa 1950.

A "four wheel drift" involves all four wheels sliding, typically under power. Back in the days of race cars without seat belts, this was just the way the cars were driven. Watch Grand Prix for examples.

Today, there are all sorts of very technical drifting definitions, but pretty nothing has really changed since the 50s(I know, its so crushing to think the Japanese didnt invent drifting- they simply invented a way to score it).

I personally think the FC is a terrific platform to drift with very minor modifications and preparations.

 

You know, you have a decent point, but take it further and rather than drift in an industrial area where you could take out a delivery driver getting an early start, drive another 1/2 hour to the middle of nowhere- farm country, the mountains, desert, etc and drift there. I kinda know the sac area and it wouldnt take much at to get far far away from the population. THATS what the Japanese drifters did- they learned in the mountains where there is virtually no traffic, especially late at night. What burns my *** is the lazy ******* who bitch about paying 75 bucks for a track day but wont drive 45minutes out into the middle of nowhere. Instead they burn around town, thinking theres no traffic at two AM and take out a guy working overtime to feed his family.
If your going to "practice" at least get away from population, use spotters and radios, and try not to kill anyone.

 

Okay, I guess I should have pointed out the fact the my front tires do, in fact, slide. And i was a little modest in estimating the speed i drove. I thought i was only going around 20-30mph, "being that i never look at the speedo when i'm doing anything crazy," when in reality, I'm actually going around 40-50. I guess there could have been some confusion there, because upon reflecting on this situation, I guess 20-30 is pretty ******* slow for going sideways. I just didn't realize i was going so fast when messing around. Mah bad.

 

You mean you used to until some idiots went drifting out in front of the track, causing the local community to complain and ban drifting at the track.

FC is a great car to drift, just not the easiest. Like it has been said before, the car's strength's make it harder for beginners to jump in. The shorter wheelbase (compared to other cars) makes it a little busier, more corrections may have to be made during a drift.

Now, the front tires aren't necessarily sliding when you're drifting. If you're drift angle matches the angle you're countersteering, then there'll be no slide on the front tires. If you're pulling off a huge, high speed four-wheel drift, then ofcourse the front's will be sliding a lot. Ofcourse there's an area between those two where the fronts will slide a bit. I always forget about that too, I just noticed my fronts were down to cords the other day! But, I just noticed Ted already mentioned that, but I'm not going to waste what I've already type!

And of course you can drift at 30mph, many drift courses are slow....and those suck ***. Drifting an FC a slow speeds can be harder because the car doesn't have weight at the ends to fling, but that's why we have e-brakes and clutch kicks.

And SimplyComplex, the way you presented about how you were 'drifting' in the parking lot, it really sounds like random tire spinning while driving around. That's not drifting. Unless you're doing controlled initiations and connecting drifting around corners/turns, it's not drifting; it's glorified powersliding.

The diff was mentioned a while back, I just wanted to address that too, real quick. I know TII, ( and I think the GTU-s) came with clutch type rear diff. These are perfect for drifting. If you have an open/vlsd/torsion type, you're going to have a hard time making long drifts. A lot of people complain that because the cars are old and have high mileage the stock diffs will be all worn out. Well, there are rebuild kits. Mazdatrix sells them, and they even have thicker plates to make for harder lock-up, so you can customize your diff, just like the aftermarket ones. So save yourself from money and benefit from OEM quality and fitment.

I've got some articles on my site about drifting an FC. Ofcourse, everyone has their own technique, and these are written just to give you an idea.

 

I cna agree with the FC being a great drifting platform. lightwieght, lots of them have a stock lsd, and they are alot cheaper (at least in my area) than a 240 or an AE86.

and i can see where everyone is coming from with the powersliding, because alot of my drifts end up being power slides because i have a hard time losing traction due to the lack of an e brake.

and i know alot of people dont like drifting on the forum, but i would like to say, drifting is a hell of a switch up from grip driving. i still find myself gripping through corners just for the fact can get home faster at 3 a.m. that way haha

 

I think a better term than "power sliding" is "power drifting". That's probly what he is trying to say. I've done some braking drifts, and "accel off" drifts, but only on the track. When on my lil "runs" on the street I mostly enter the turn slow and clutch kick it into the turn, use my "power" to get through the turn. That's what power drifting is, I believe so at least. I'm afraid to go ***** out cause I don't know what's around the bend. But on the track it's much easier to let loose and enter the turn full throttle.