Anyone did a diff rebuild?
#1
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Anyone did a diff rebuild?
Hi guys,
Got a quick diff rebuild question, was hoping someone has the experience to clarify this for me.
Going trough the manual you need special tools (obviously), and I am not planning in purchasing these if I don't absolutely need to (obviously ).
The part that bothers me the most is SST 49 F027 001 and 49 0660 555 (see image).
You should measure pinion height with these tools, but I'm looking for an alternative.
Would the depth measurement on the pinion gear BEFORE removal be usable as the desired value for adjusting pinion depth on reassembly?
Thanks
kevin
Got a quick diff rebuild question, was hoping someone has the experience to clarify this for me.
Going trough the manual you need special tools (obviously), and I am not planning in purchasing these if I don't absolutely need to (obviously ).
The part that bothers me the most is SST 49 F027 001 and 49 0660 555 (see image).
You should measure pinion height with these tools, but I'm looking for an alternative.
Would the depth measurement on the pinion gear BEFORE removal be usable as the desired value for adjusting pinion depth on reassembly?
Thanks
kevin
#3
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Sure. Just ordered an LSD. So I am considering rebuilding the whole thing as its 200k km old.
Using the old spacer might not cut it when I renew those pinion bearings so I'd like to verify some measurements before final installation.
Using the old spacer might not cut it when I renew those pinion bearings so I'd like to verify some measurements before final installation.
#4
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In answer to your original question, that SST is used to set pinion depth accurately from the start without using the trial and error method with ring gear marking compound.
New bearings will not change your current pinion depth. The current pinion spacer, whatever its thickness, was installed during assembly to account for variations in the diff housing during manufacture. However, you might want to use ring gear marking compound just to verify that you have the correct tooth contact pattern.
New bearings will not change your current pinion depth. The current pinion spacer, whatever its thickness, was installed during assembly to account for variations in the diff housing during manufacture. However, you might want to use ring gear marking compound just to verify that you have the correct tooth contact pattern.
#5
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I've been putting this off, but since I'm finishing up on my rebuild, I have a couple questions here too. I've got (what I would consider) a fair amount of play at the outputs of my diff where the axels bolt on. I can wiggle the outputs about 3/16 or so on either side. There is also a little bit of slop that can be felt when starting from a stop, or coming a full stop by the rest of the drivetrain catching up to the backlash. Would this be more of a bearing issue, or is there something else I should look into before cracking this thing open. Diff is S4TII
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I've been putting this off, but since I'm finishing up on my rebuild, I have a couple questions here too. I've got (what I would consider) a fair amount of play at the outputs of my diff where the axels bolt on. I can wiggle the outputs about 3/16 or so on either side. There is also a little bit of slop that can be felt when starting from a stop, or coming a full stop by the rest of the drivetrain catching up to the backlash. Would this be more of a bearing issue, or is there something else I should look into before cracking this thing open. Diff is S4TII
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In answer to your original question, that SST is used to set pinion depth accurately from the start without using the trial and error method with ring gear marking compound.
New bearings will not change your current pinion depth. The current pinion spacer, whatever its thickness, was installed during assembly to account for variations in the diff housing during manufacture. However, you might want to use ring gear marking compound just to verify that you have the correct tooth contact pattern.
New bearings will not change your current pinion depth. The current pinion spacer, whatever its thickness, was installed during assembly to account for variations in the diff housing during manufacture. However, you might want to use ring gear marking compound just to verify that you have the correct tooth contact pattern.
So I prefer to take a measurement to be sure and change if needed, but I'm not quiet sure if the depth measurement in current state would be a usable value to refer to after reassembly.
#9
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The current spacer might very well be the one that is needed, but I wouldn't be surprised if new bearings do affect pinion depth. I've done multiple VW gearboxes (fwd), lets say I do diff bearing replacement, I always need to use a slightly different thickness of spacer. In that case to set the proper preload. So I am not 100% convinced that new bearings won't effect anything. Whether it be preload, or in this case, pinion depth.
So I prefer to take a measurement to be sure and change if needed, but I'm not quiet sure if the depth measurement in current state would be a usable value to refer to after reassembly.
So I prefer to take a measurement to be sure and change if needed, but I'm not quiet sure if the depth measurement in current state would be a usable value to refer to after reassembly.
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you seem to be off tune i.e. did you read his post? Or at least his position was clear to me as was yours.
seems like the new LSD might be a factor because if it changes the ring gear position even slightly then this will impact pinion gear tooth engagement position
because additionally the factory service manual literature he posted states to use the original washer with the service tool. So why would you do all of that if just throwing it together with the original spacing washer is guaranteed to be dead nuts on? Wouldn’t it suggest otherwise or at least it may just depend on a variety of factors.
so the suggestion to measure it seems reasonable, guess the OP has to decide on whether to chance guessing at it and possibly needing to buy one or more new crush collars trying to get it right if it’s off.
seems like the new LSD might be a factor because if it changes the ring gear position even slightly then this will impact pinion gear tooth engagement position
because additionally the factory service manual literature he posted states to use the original washer with the service tool. So why would you do all of that if just throwing it together with the original spacing washer is guaranteed to be dead nuts on? Wouldn’t it suggest otherwise or at least it may just depend on a variety of factors.
so the suggestion to measure it seems reasonable, guess the OP has to decide on whether to chance guessing at it and possibly needing to buy one or more new crush collars trying to get it right if it’s off.
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Thanks for the replies so far guys.
I'll try to measure the pinion depth before assembling first. I can always start over if teeth engagement is off.
LSD should be in with 3 weeks or so, not sure when I pull the diff though
I'll try to measure the pinion depth before assembling first. I can always start over if teeth engagement is off.
LSD should be in with 3 weeks or so, not sure when I pull the diff though
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