Another OMP pre-mix? (confused self in search)
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Another OMP pre-mix? (confused self in search)
90 vert. Searched for hours but never was 100% clear on this. Can this be done? 3 questions:
1) I get the RTek chip for the ECU for OMP delete--assuming ECU is not fried yet
2) Leave OMP 'as is' installed in the car with injection lines, nozzles, etc. in place as well as all electrical connections, etc. In other words, leave factory installed configuration in place
3) Start pre-mix 1 oz/gal 2-stroke oil in gas tank
Found this in search which seems helpful in someone troubleshooting a failed OMP:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/s5-mop-ecu-failure-diagnosis-710938/
1) I get the RTek chip for the ECU for OMP delete--assuming ECU is not fried yet
2) Leave OMP 'as is' installed in the car with injection lines, nozzles, etc. in place as well as all electrical connections, etc. In other words, leave factory installed configuration in place
3) Start pre-mix 1 oz/gal 2-stroke oil in gas tank
Found this in search which seems helpful in someone troubleshooting a failed OMP:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/s5-mop-ecu-failure-diagnosis-710938/
If you RTEK'ed then followed that w/premixing there would be no need for the OMP thus if you so chose to do so you could remove the pump and put a block off plate in its place or do as you stated.
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The OMP is hooked to the ECU and if that signal gets "detached" then the Car goes into limp mode.
That is part of the New S5 technology,compared to the Mechanical omp on s4's..lol!
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90 vert. Searched for hours but never was 100% clear on this. Can this be done? 3 questions:
1) I get the RTek chip for the ECU for OMP delete--assuming ECU is not fried yet
2) Leave OMP 'as is' installed in the car with injection lines, nozzles, etc. in place as well as all electrical connections, etc. In other words, leave factory installed configuration in place
3) Start pre-mix 1 oz/gal 2-stroke oil in gas tank
Found this in search which seems helpful in someone troubleshooting a failed OMP:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=710938
1) I get the RTek chip for the ECU for OMP delete--assuming ECU is not fried yet
2) Leave OMP 'as is' installed in the car with injection lines, nozzles, etc. in place as well as all electrical connections, etc. In other words, leave factory installed configuration in place
3) Start pre-mix 1 oz/gal 2-stroke oil in gas tank
Found this in search which seems helpful in someone troubleshooting a failed OMP:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=710938
There is some discussion that you could have an ECU rTeK chipped even if it is burned out, since supposedly only the MOP output drive circuits are damaged. Then disable the MOP in software and it works for premixing.
Discuss it with Rtek.
the ecu controls the volume through the pump
if you have rtek then it no longer will alter the pumps output according to load
it will not limp the engine either cause it sees it no longer will interpret the not moving eomp as a fault
the eomp that is physically on the side of the engine will STILL add oil to the engine
it will do so at a fixed rate depending on where the stepper motor parked when it was disconnected
you can simply take off the stepper motor cover and wind it to a fixed position you are happy with
you can also simply take out the actuator spindle and just replace it with a spacer of your desire
the pump will work at the fixed rate per engine revolution , and you should supplement this with a smaller amount of premix
this gives best of both worlds,, give economy in the premix ratio ( which can now be 200 or 250:1 )
and yet have redundancy if you forget to top up the petrol with 2 stroke ,, and better wet the hot spot in middle of apex seal
( and that is the reason mazda went to so much effort to stick on the housing squirts in the first place )
if you have rtek then it no longer will alter the pumps output according to load
it will not limp the engine either cause it sees it no longer will interpret the not moving eomp as a fault
the eomp that is physically on the side of the engine will STILL add oil to the engine
it will do so at a fixed rate depending on where the stepper motor parked when it was disconnected
you can simply take off the stepper motor cover and wind it to a fixed position you are happy with
you can also simply take out the actuator spindle and just replace it with a spacer of your desire
the pump will work at the fixed rate per engine revolution , and you should supplement this with a smaller amount of premix
this gives best of both worlds,, give economy in the premix ratio ( which can now be 200 or 250:1 )
and yet have redundancy if you forget to top up the petrol with 2 stroke ,, and better wet the hot spot in middle of apex seal
( and that is the reason mazda went to so much effort to stick on the housing squirts in the first place )
Why?
Why?
And now we know.
Thanks for explaining.
Why?
Thanks for explaining.
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