Ok so I tried to go and find out how to wire in a external regulator on a alternator and yes i used the search function but I could not find anything. I was thinking about both of my cars not being able to run at the moment and then remembered that the rx7 has a mitsubishi alternator on it that is rated for 80 amps. Then I remembered that dodge avenger has almost all mitsubishi parts. I did some research and the plugs are all the same but the avenger alternater is 110 amps and you can get it for roughly the same price. Then I started looking at other mitsubishi alternators and found alot of them that have internal regulators as well for 110 amps and they are around 90 bux. The question is if these internally regulated alternators wont mount in correctly and the avenger once will how do I wire in a external regulator???

 

Why do you want an external regulator? The stock system is internal, the mitsu alt regulator is internal. Why complicate matters?

 

Why down grade when you don't have to? There are a few applications for your car that produce more amps if that is what you are looking for .. Before I did what you are thinking I would be going to a simple GM alt with a single power post, they are available in high output sizes .. Some of the later mazda alt are also a higher output .. I would think twice before I started adding external outdated technology .. With a little work and maybe a spacer or two you should be able to find lots of good options ..

 

You can pick up a RX-7 internal regulator off the YouTube site for maybe 23 bucks give or take and then pull your RX alt apart and solder in the new regulator.

 

I dont think you guys are understanding. The Alternators that I am looking at are direct bolt in. No washers, no spacers, no soldering, no rewiring. This is a nice upgrade for anyone that has a bad alternator and needs to get a new one for the same cost or cheaper that is better. The only reason why I asked about the external regulator was because my avenger alt was externally regulated. Since then I have found alternators for as cheap as 95 dollars that are up to 130 amps. Now figure. If I need a new alternator and I want it fixed quickly would you rather spend money on a gm alternator and have to center it and wire everything or would you buy a 130 amp alternator that is internally regulated, has the EXACT same plugs, and will bolt on with no spaces, washers, or anything else. The only thing you would have to replace is the pully. Now which would be better. Also is you want a 130 amp alt that bolts in you have to pay someone 200+ dollars to upgrade it and send it off if you dont have a shop nearby. I am trying to give people an alternative and find out what is possible.

Remember the only reason I asked about external was because I hadn't found the internally regulated alternators that were high amp yet.

 

i would buy a brand new s6 alternator if I wanted to keep it "simple"

car-stuff. com is where I got mine, no core charge, choice of brands, most of them "lifetime" guarantee. They say 100 amp but the last 2 alternators I have purchased came tested over 130amps

what are you running anyhow that you need 130 amps?

 

How could anyone possibly remember that when you just now told us?

BTW, external regulator with no rewiring? Where does the external regulator go that it would qualify as 'no rewiring'?

 

External regulator would need rewiring. When i first started this thread I was just trying to keep costs low while increasing amps without having to find the correct pulley or shaft size or having to screw with washers and spacers because I do not have that kind of patients and also if it is so little out of wack that it eats a belt I really dont have extra money to buy belts either since I am unemployed right now since my other car blew its transmission and I have only had the rx7 for a month now and we have snow on the ground.. Just got another 8 inches yesterday to be exact. I never said that the external regulator needed to rewiring. I only stated no wiring when I said that I had found higher amp alternators that were drop in and needed nothing to make them work other than swapping pullies.

According to my original post.....

The question is if these internally regulated alternators wont mount in correctly and the avenger once will how do I wire in a external regulator???

I did state the avenger alternator needed to wire in an external regulator. I had found internally regulated alts but was unsure if they bolted in or needed spacers.

Make sure to read before posting please Jack.

Rob I am just trying to find alternatives to paying for an alternator that produces 130 amp and costs 200+ dollars. Eventually I will have a nice sound system and will probably need to have a 130 amp alternator or even higher. I do not know at the moment. When I started this post I thought that my alternator was bad so I was going to upgrade so I wouldn't have to worry about it later so I started to do the research and decided to share my research with the forum. Althought I do not know why people are being so against the information. Well regardless the information is on the forum that there are bolt in replacments but I will not state which cars they come off of because of people not accepting the fact that they can get quality parts that are better than stock for cheaper. For all I care now a mod can close this post...

 

Obviously posted by a rude and meany person. MODERATOR! MODERATOR! Throw this meany off the forum!....humor, please.

 

Obviously but that doesn't mean I have to put up with it so I will just leave this posting to die. You know how it is in the real world. One person does something stupid and ruins it for everyone else right. Well this is a perfect example ehhh.

 

Hey, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. My reading comprehension is pretty keen. I can't make heads or tails of what you are saying. Most everyone posting on your thread has some pretty expert help regarding alternators and/or electrical on FC's. When long, rambling stream of continuousness posts come up, a person must ask some questions to try to help.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings by asking questions.

Hailers hurt my feelings too.

But I got better.

 

Just one question while looking into these direct replacements. Did you measure the shaft size to make sure it was 15mm to make it a direct replacement? The alternator/starter builder for my work went threw a lot of mitsu alts and all appeared to be way more work than just a s6 with a new or machined pulley. Most of the ones we tried were way to large to fit under edge of top mount if you are running one. Lastly, if you are unemployed the last thing on your mind should be beefing up sound systems.....sorry not my place.

 

I guess i dont see buying a $80 dollar alternator, a $30 dollar pulley, and snipping a few wires as being not bolt in or cheap for a great solution using a s6 alt.

 

I said that down the road I am getting a better sound system and I have a N/A 91 so I do not have to worry about clearance issues plus I wouldn't be able to afford insurance on a turbo car because you always get penalized by your insurance. Most of the alternators that I am looking at have the same clearance and some have even better clearance than the stock due to different bolt angles on the far end. Therefore you can actually shorten the belt .5" to a full inch and still be able to tension the alternator correctly. The 90 dollar alternators that I have found are internally regulated and push up to 130 amps and have the same terminals in the same configuration that our alternators do.

Also it isn't your place to comment on my job status because it isn't my fault that my transmission blew in my other car forcing me to quit my job because the transmission shop has had my car for 3 weeks. So mind your own business...

 

So at $90 and 130 amps you are saying it has same shaft size as s4 alternator and would not require new pulley? From my understanding from a alternator shop our pulley shafts sizes are not frequently used. The 17mm is far more common. He could be wrong though. Sorry i refer to s4 and i see yours is s5. I just dont see s6 not being the most cost effective route.

 

a high end sound system the alternator will be the least of your expense, but if your employment status right now is not great why dont you look into the tempo alternator write ups or the gm cs130 case write ups? you can find one in a junk yard. I cant see how a small bracket modification is so much work in comparison to a turbo build or a high end stereo build

people have put the information out there for others, search around a little bit and ask some questions and im sure you can find something in your budget

 

So were any alternators found that would direct fit without using an external regulator?